Honda admits defeat: Turbo VTEC
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Honda historically has been loathe build 3 types of engines: production engines with more than 6 cylinders, 2-strokes, and turbos. Now with new emissions regulations and several years of getting kicked in the teeth by turbocharged competition, Honda is unveiling a family of turbo engines.

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1.0L = 127 hp/147 tq
1.5L = 201 hp/192 tq
2.0L = 280 hp/295 tq
3.5L = ???

Not sure where all of the engines will go, but the 2.0T will go in the Euro/JDM CTR at the least. Rumor is American Honda is lobbying to get it in a RWD application but who knows if that will ever pan out.

1.5L might be going in the Fit-based SUV and a mid-engined S car. 1.0L will be in the S1000 for some markets.

As a long suffering Honda fan I am saddened that there may never be another high revving naturally-aspirated car engine from Honda but I am happy they'll finally bring out some products with more power. Now all we need is the proper cars for this to go into.
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So in the somewhat distant future the Civic Si won't completely suck balls?

Neat.
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any news on the "type" of Vtec they are going to use? are they keeping the current intake only version or are they going back to intake/exhaust sides?

I can see they are keeping the trans on the drivers side... the water necks indicate an thermostat placement change (due to the turbos)... and it looks like they are keeping the "cast" into the head setup for the turbo mount/intake area.
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SlimKlim Wrote:So in the somewhat distant future the Civic Si won't completely suck balls?

Neat.

depends on how jacked up the designed the suspension IMHO... the RSX and slow bus Si were all supposed to be amazing... and they they tried to turn them. They can be made to turn (to a point) but its a major headache and expense.
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#5
Will Rex finally buy a Honda?
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#6
Sweet, turbos. Now all the honda boys claiming honda reliability will feel the wrath of idiots that buy them and just turn up the boost controller.
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CaptainHenreh Wrote:Will Rex finally buy a Honda?

Nay say I.
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#8
looks like all that boost is still going to power front wheels :vomit:

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#9
Shame, an S2000 successor with a buttload of boost from that 2.0 would've been a bitchin' (but probably pricier) BRZ competitor and nipped at BMW and Porsche's heels.
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#10
can we have our A-arm suspension back before they start trying to throw stupid amounts of power through the wrong wheels, please?
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Maybe it's the ricer in me, but that 2015 CTR looks badass :dunno:
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#13
AND you have to be a BTCC driver to have a civic that looks like that Wink
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#15
whatever.. take the wing off the back and sell it to the public Wink
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