HellaFlush

[Maengelito]

Even thinking about the NASA Nov event...

me too! except i'm scared to shake off the cobwebs.

Christmas times a'comin'!

[f2399CL]

teaser.

[Mike]

Even thinking about the NASA Nov event...

me too! except i'm scared to shake off the cobwebs.

Christmas times a'comin'!

it didn't come last year. y'all were bad.

[N0VA_zEnKI]

teaser.

Ooo. Do show more. haha.

[WRXtranceformed]

Some people just dont get the scene, I at least respect it, not necessarily agree with everything they do.

I look at drifting to motorsports as I do acid / industrial house to techno. I love all different kinds of EDM, and I know some people think acid / industrial is cool, but I just don't get why.

Not to disrespect people that are into the competitive circuits of that scene, but it seems foolish to me to drive around an unusable car because you're part of a "crew" or "scene."

[smartcarls1racer]

In all honesty Nova_zenki has the most accurate point of all of you. Idk who the hell posted the pictures of the mustangs and the vettes but you are far from sane if you think thats flush. The point is to have the best and most attactive suspension/offset to maintain the strongest center of gravity. Those vettes.....or the stang......christ, might as well throw rims on a boat and call it a monster truck because i'd need a ladder to get into one of those and if you honestly think that would hold up on a course......ya know.....with some turns. (point being not a drag strip) then i'd love to see that take a turn and not kill everyone trying to watch the race.

The cars that he is giving examples for have more logical reasons than those "American Muscle" pieces of V8 trash you all think are cool because you're daddy drove one. Those cars are flush because of alot of logical and extremely well thought out calculations and products. Buying a stock cobra or Roush mustang does not posses "Hella Flush" only "Hella Heavy".

Please do not waste peoples time with throwing a car into a conversation that literally does the exact opposite of whats being talked about.

<3loveyou

[flintster55]

:?:

[fiveoh2go]

In all honesty Nova_zenki has the most accurate point of all of you. Idk who the hell posted the pictures of the mustangs and the vettes but you are far from sane if you think thats flush. The point is to have the best and most attactive suspension/offset to maintain the strongest center of gravity. Those vettes.....or the stang......christ, might as well throw rims on a boat and call it a monster truck because i'd need a ladder to get into one of those and if you honestly think that would hold up on a course......ya know.....with some turns. (point being not a drag strip) then i'd love to see that take a turn and not kill everyone trying to watch the race.

The cars that he is giving examples for have more logical reasons than those "American Muscle" pieces of V8 trash you all think are cool because you're daddy drove one. Those cars are flush because of alot of logical and extremely well thought out calculations and products. Buying a stock cobra or Roush mustang does not posses "Hella Flush" only "Hella Heavy".

Please do not waste peoples time with throwing a car into a conversation that literally does the exact opposite of whats being talked about.

<3loveyou

[Jake]

:?:

PM sent.

Let's keep things respectful in here, guys.

[Goodspeed]

In all honesty Nova_zenki has the most accurate point of all of you. Idk who the hell posted the pictures of the mustangs and the vettes but you are far from sane if you think thats flush. The point is to have the best and most attactive suspension/offset to maintain the strongest center of gravity. Those vettes.....or the stang......christ, might as well throw rims on a boat and call it a monster truck because i'd need a ladder to get into one of those and if you honestly think that would hold up on a course......ya know.....with some turns. (point being not a drag strip) then i'd love to see that take a turn and not kill everyone trying to watch the race.

The cars that he is giving examples for have more logical reasons than those "American Muscle" pieces of V8 trash you all think are cool because you're daddy drove one. Those cars are flush because of alot of logical and extremely well thought out calculations and products. Buying a stock cobra or Roush mustang does not posses "Hella Flush" only "Hella Heavy".

Please do not waste peoples time with throwing a car into a conversation that literally does the exact opposite of whats being talked about.

<3loveyou

ROFL...in before the ban. It was a joke. I like some drift cars/setups but half of those "hellaflush" cars are retarded examples of form over function, to the extent that they are downright unsafe to drive all in the name of looking bizallin' or whatevertheshit.

The cars I and others posted have actual sidewalls and contact patches, sufficient for, you know, transferring what engines do to the ground. Which is important in drag and road racing/autocross (which, if you haven't noticed, is 95% of what this club does). Carry on.

[ScottyB]

quality first post :lol: just simmer down now....

while your devotion to your position is admirable, your post is dominated by ignorance. i dont' say that to be an ass, but because you're incorrect on most of the subjective handling information.

i hope you stick around though, there are alot of knowledgable people here who know a bit about suspension setup. i think you might find some information here enlightening.

ok, thats all the nice guy i have left in me today.

[flintster55]

<----------- Drives a turbo jap car and love every minute of it

BUT I would trade it for this in a heartbeat

[N0VA_zEnKI]

wow... I go to the gym and come back and BAM! haha.

Those vettes.....or the stang......christ, might as well throw rims on a boat and call it a monster truck because i'd need a ladder to get into one of those

:lol: :thumbup: hahahaha... funny funny... agreed there.
But in all honesty, I agree, that keeping it respectful would be nice! However, the disrespect didn't start with smartcarls1racer's post if you ask me. anyways....

I like some drift cars/setups but half of those "hellaflush" cars are retarded examples of form over function, to the extent that they are downright unsafe to drive all in the name of looking bizallin' or whatevertheshit......The cars I and others posted have actual sidewalls and contact patches, sufficient for, you know, transferring what engines do to the ground.

I think it's naive to label half of those slammed cars as unsafe. I can agree that I have seen quite a few of cars pop up on hellaflush with a ridiculous amount of stretch and camber. But I think those are posted knowing just how ridiculous and flashy they are. Given that, I'd say the majority on that site are yes, stylish, but retain "actual sidewalls and contact patches". The stretch gives them very little sidewall flex, and slight camber (that's a whole other discussion on what we think is a good setup in degrees of camber for what applications) gives them that flat contact patch when cornering hard, leveling the tire out. Yes it is done in style, but it sure is far from unsafe. Of course their ride height isn't the absolute best for performance, but it was never said these are the best cars hands down. Form takes large precedence in being flush of course, but it started with function and the want for a better handling suspension setup (with the stretch and camber playing into effect). Function is not something that is thrown out the window here. It's easy to say the function of these cars are "unsafe" or the cars are "unusable", but really? After driving my own car for a year when it was pretty low with slight stretch and negative camber, and several of my friend's cars on the track and street, I have to disagree and say they have been the most aggressive handling cars (in a good way) that I've ever driven. Yeah, I haven't driven every car imaginable, but I can I've "nice" cars that have been a lot worse, but still safe and usable... Not only that, but the risky devils on that site present their cars to the track and you can watch them tear it up too.... wow, my fingers just kept on typing, thanks for reading.

[ScottyB]

wow... I go to the gym and come back and BAM! haha.

so yeah, welcome to MM...buckle up and prepare to go over the cliff. :lol:

i don't think there's any real hate here. we bust alot of balls. sometimes certain subjects just take off and go on tangents and people get all hot n bothered. just sayin'.

[Goodspeed]

No disrespect intended, just different strokes for different folks. Its a simple situation, I don't argue the technical aspects of stretched tires/offset/camber settings, for drifting. But if you're not into drifting, you're not going to be 100% "down" with the design/style, especially as a wider fad among those with everything from Civics to Audi wagons.

i don't think there's any real hate here. we bust alot of balls. sometimes certain subjects just take off and go on tangents and people get all hot n bothered. just sayin'.

Exactly. NZ is actually level headed, and I like his car (a lot, I want to hump it). However, the hellaflush thing has popped up on other forums I read and it usually goes something like this:

Yo! Check out my flushness!
- (insert random comment not supporting the flushness, usually referencing tire stretch)
Y'all be hatin muthafukkas! White trash V8 drivin' muthafukkas! You just don't understand the style/our struggle to achieve what we be!

Grrr, annoying. K, I'm done.

[N0VA_zEnKI]

haha. ya. . . thats usually how it works (scotty)

[WRXtranceformed]

In all honesty Nova_zenki has the most accurate point of all of you. Idk who the hell posted the pictures of the mustangs and the vettes but you are far from sane if you think thats flush. The point is to have the best and most attactive suspension/offset to maintain the strongest center of gravity. Those vettes.....or the stang......christ, might as well throw rims on a boat and call it a monster truck because i'd need a ladder to get into one of those and if you honestly think that would hold up on a course......ya know.....with some turns. (point being not a drag strip) then i'd love to see that take a turn and not kill everyone trying to watch the race.

The cars that he is giving examples for have more logical reasons than those "American Muscle" pieces of V8 trash you all think are cool because you're daddy drove one. Those cars are flush because of alot of logical and extremely well thought out calculations and products. Buying a stock cobra or Roush mustang does not posses "Hella Flush" only "Hella Heavy".

Please do not waste peoples time with throwing a car into a conversation that literally does the exact opposite of whats being talked about.

<3loveyou

Altnick?

[JustinG]

The cars that he is giving examples for have more logical reasons than those "American Muscle" pieces of V8 trash you all think are cool because you're daddy drove one.

My dad drove a 60 something Impala, and we now have a 56 ford f-100 in pieces, Uncle has a 67 RS Camaro, 03 SS Camaro, and 54 Chevy P/Up. Wife's dad has a 72 SS Camaro. But I drive a 99 GSX. So the whole Import vs. Domestic argument doesn't really apply to me. Ill hate on Mustangs and Camaros just as hard as I will Hondas. This is all in fun, and im glad to see Zenki is still hangin around, not many people would put up with our garbage. Hope you come to the Auto-X in October. And Smartcar, how bout introducing yourself in our intro section. I can only assume you have an LS1 powered Smart Car and you like to race, smartcar ls1 racer . Or your smart, name is Carl, and your the #1 racer, smart carls 1 racer.

Anyways.

Hella Flush true old school American style.....

[D_Eclipse9916]

In all honesty Nova_zenki has the most accurate point of all of you. Idk who the hell posted the pictures of the mustangs and the vettes but you are far from sane if you think thats flush. The point is to have the best and most attactive suspension/offset to maintain the strongest center of gravity. Those vettes.....or the stang......christ, might as well throw rims on a boat and call it a monster truck because i'd need a ladder to get into one of those and if you honestly think that would hold up on a course......ya know.....with some turns. (point being not a drag strip) then i'd love to see that take a turn and not kill everyone trying to watch the race.

The cars that he is giving examples for have more logical reasons than those "American Muscle" pieces of V8 trash you all think are cool because you're daddy drove one. Those cars are flush because of alot of logical and extremely well thought out calculations and products. Buying a stock cobra or Roush mustang does not posses "Hella Flush" only "Hella Heavy".

Please do not waste peoples time with throwing a car into a conversation that literally does the exact opposite of whats being talked about.

<3loveyou

El o El, you realize this board actually rips on domestic car guys a lot more than imports? And that this club's main focus is autocross and road racing? We appreciate your opinion and thank you for coming on this site, but I hope you will stick around and realize that hellaflush is a "style". Many drifters do this succesfully, but more importantly the "points" you achieve and work on is based on style, not on a stopwatch.

Many of us started out all about the "dumped and low" look. And thought it was better for handling. Then as our experience grew with road racing and autocross, we realized that was not an ideal setup for handling. Trust me, ive driven dumped cars, my friend's "drift" cars etc. The hate is a little strong from some people on here, but thats all in good fun as most of us know each other very well in person so we like to give each other shit. I would like you to find a thread of mine, where everyone hasnt stated they hate me (im damn serious ).

NovaZenki, I hope you don't take our remarks so seriously as "smartcars1racer" and youll see we are a club specifically about community and having fun together promoting a mature understanding of modifying vehicles and their fun on track, wether that be drifting, autocrossing, or road racing.

[D_Eclipse9916]

Hella Flush true old school American style.....

PS- The truck is horrendous!