Official MM Firearms Thread

[CaptainHenreh]

Did the UZI come from that case that is open on the ground there?

Maybe? :dunno:

[WRXtranceformed]

Not sure if it's been posted here, but there's some good bullet technology for snipers coming out!

[CaptainHenreh]

Really interesting article on the Al Kadesih, the Iraqi Sniper/Designated Marksman rifle...

Iraq's Al Kadesih Sniper Rifle

[Jeff]

The JMU concealed carry group is doing a "empty holster demonstration" on campus to promote their pro-concealed carry on campus views. This coming Thursday. I thought it was a pretty cool idea myself. Anne is wearing my Uncle Mike's Sidekick shoulder holster...she is expecting the ultra liberal Professor she TA's for to freak out.

Does anyone know what the deal is with that at JMU? I know students cannot carry, but wasn't there a law suit a few years ago that made it legal for citizens (non-students) to carry on campus with the proper permit? Basically the university could only ban its own students and punish them inside its own system.

[CaptainHenreh]

IIRC, concealed carry is only prohibited by law on VCU & (and I think) GMU campuses.

However, students are subject to academic regulations of the colleges.

David Briggman, a resident of Keezletown in Rockingham County, has made it his personal mission to challenge state colleges' authority to enact tougher gun restrictions than the state.

Briggman, who is a former police officer, said he forced Blue Ridge Community College to allow him to carry a gun onto campus while a student. And he sued James Madison University over its ban on concealed weapons even among permit holders. While JMU's policy still stands, Briggman said he has been told by campus police officials that they will not arrest visitors who carry a gun legally.
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The way this works, I believe, is that carrying a firearm on one of the above campuses is statutorily defined as trespassing. But I am not a lawyer, and I am especially not your lawyer.

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[John]

I was at Walmart yesterday evening to pick up some 9mm range ammo. Their cabinets were completely empty - I inquire as to whether they stopped stocking ammo (I've heard many Walmarts in bigger cities have done this). To my surprise, the clerk told me that over the past two months, ammo is sold out within 4 hours of being stocked on the shelves at all area stores. He told me to call ahead each morning to see what was received the night before and come in first thing... People stocking up or what? Wow...

[CaptainHenreh]

He told me to call ahead each morning to see what was received the night before and come in first thing... People stocking up or what? Wow...

It's like this everywhere.

Record gun sales + perceived hostile political atmosphere = more people buying ammunition in record numbers.

More people buying ammo = less ammo available (and higher prices!)

AWB2 Still looms:

OBAMA: Well, first of all, we did discuss this extensively in our meetings. I have not backed off at all from my belief that the gun ÔÇö the assault weapons ban made sense.

And I continue to believe that we can respect and honor the 2nd Amendment rights in our Constitution, the rights of sportsmen and hunters and homeowners who want to keep their families safe to lawfully bear arms, while dealing with assault weapons that, as we now know, here in Mexico, are helping to fuel extraordinary violence ÔÇö violence in our own country, as well.

Then there's the CIFTA treaty that's got people's panties in a twist: Clicky-Pow, plus the constant bombardment from the MSM (That's everybody, by the way, I'm not exempting any mouthpiece of the MSM) about guns, "mass killings", and all manner of gun related PSH...people are just worried that they won't be able to get firearms and ammunition in the future, so they're stocking up now.

And it really sucks.

[John]

What are the purchase requirements for "assault weapons" at VA gun shows? If you're doing a "private sale", is it a simple exchange or what? I am thinking of making a purchase out there, but would stash it in my parent's basement since there's no way I can get it into CA legally.

[CaptainHenreh]

What's the purchase requirements for "assault weapons" at VA gun shows? If you're doing a "private sale", is it a simple exchange or what? I am thinking of making a purchase out there, but would stash it in my parent's basement since there's no way I can get it into CA legally.

Ok. If you're buying a gun from a federally licensed dealer at a gun show, it's just as if you were buying it in a store. You'll need 2 forms of ID, both with your address, assuming you're buying a rifle...

HOWEVER. While there are no federal requirements to this effect, many dealers will not sell to anyone who does not reside in a neighboring state AND this was posted on the Nation's Gun Show website:

NON-VA Residents: Must be of legal age to purchase a firearm. Can only purchase long guns (rifles and shotguns) and must have the same forms of ID as VA residents. Driver's License from your State of residence and another ID that proves you live in that State. ALL LAWS OF BOTH STATES MUST BE COMPLIED WITH. You must fill out the paperwork and pass the background check, you can then take your firearm with you.

Since practically any assault rifle you find at a gun show in VA is going to be illegal in Cali, you're probably SOL unless you have a VA ID.

[John]

Boo - I wish I had done this last year before my VA DL expired...

[CaptainHenreh]

Boo - I wish I had done this last year before my VA DL expired...

You could always buy non-firearm parts and put them together in Cali...

[John]

Do any specific parts of the firearm need to be registered? Seems a little too easy of a loophole to "exploit"...

[CaptainHenreh]

Do any specific parts of the firearm need to be registered? Seems a little too easy of a loophole to "exploit"...

In California, you have to register your lower receiver. That's the one part that the ATF has determined is a "firearm", and you would need to get a background check for in VA.

If you really want an AR-15, send me a PM and I'll walk you through the california process. It's pretty easy, instead of a mag release you'll have a "bullet button", I'll explain what that is.

[Goodspeed]

Concerning gun ownership/registration/whatever in California (and other states), I read some interesting news today. The 2nd Amendment as an individual right has become incorporated by the US Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit. It should be at least a start to dismantling Cali's overzealous gun laws.

http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/op...715763.pdf

We therefore conclude that the right to keep and bear
arms is ÔÇ£deeply rooted in this NationÔÇÖs history and tradition.ÔÇØ
Colonial revolutionaries, the Founders, and a host of commentators
and lawmakers living during the first one hundred
years of the Republic all insisted on the fundamental nature
of the right. It has long been regarded as the ÔÇ£true palladium
of liberty.ÔÇØ Colonists relied on it to assert and to win their
independence, and the victorious Union sought to prevent a
recalcitrant South from abridging it less than a century later.
The crucial role this deeply rooted right has played in our
birth and history compels us to recognize that it is indeed fundamental,
that it is necessary to the Anglo-American conception
of ordered liberty that we have inherited.17 We are
therefore persuaded that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth
Amendment incorporates the Second Amendment and
applies it against the states and local governments

After a little google search on what this means:

http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=3778

Interesting.

[CaptainHenreh]

That is pretty interesting, but it was kind of inevitable. I am glad it happened in California, but I don't think we'll be be seeing a breaking down of California's arbitrary and capricious gun laws any time soon. California does not ban guns, it does not even ban handguns, but merely weapons with certain cosmetic features attached. It has a long-standing legal precedent, and the Second Amendment Heller decision does not protect my right to own a so-called "high capacity ammunition feeding device" or a "collapsible or folding buttstock".

It also doesn't punish California for making an ex-post-facto law regarding "assault weapons" and confiscating law-abiding citizen's personal property.

[John]

If anything, California is moving in the opposite direction. It's only a matter of time before some environmentalist implores a study about how lead from the bullets is killing the spotted desert lizard or something, and soon bullets will be banned. This state is full of that silly rhetoric...

[Jeff]

This is shitty. Sounds like it would have been a cool place.

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[CaptainHenreh]

This is shitty. Sounds like it would have been a cool place.

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Bunch of pansy-ass hippie NIMBY motherfuckers.

"Reduced property values" is the most lame horseshit excuse on earth.

[BLINGMW]

if you scroll about 1/4th of the way down this page

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you'll see these guys are selling Romanian underfolder AKs for $399. I'm REALLY tempted, just gave them a call and it's fo real. How many can I put my fellow MMers down for? :thumbup:

[V1GiLaNtE]

^^ wow... super tempting... just for fun I'll post up a pic of my new toy.. nothing fancy but for $106.99 after tax you can't complain! NEF Pardner 12 ga.... kicks like a bitch with standard bird shot.. can't wait to run 3" 00 and 2 3/4" Sluggers...