This really going to go down? "this" being America

[Evan]

That is why I said

If liberals can figure out how to turn
"No person shall be ... deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"
into
"you can kill an unborn baby"

and stand behind it as a factual and not morally relative statement. You can legally abort a baby a number of days before birth (or during for partial birth abortions)

Well, I think it was your choice of words. It seemed as though you were asserting that because the current law allows for abortion days before birth that somehow all "liberals" believe that should be the case. There are shades of gray.

I see what you mean. I meant to write Supreme Court or Supreme Court Liberals, as I was making a point about the law and constitution, not a broad statement about you kooks

[ScottyB]

a little OT but it makes me feel like the US is going down the crapper.

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"According to the receipt from the St. Regis, the eight-day company retreat was a lavish one -- $139,000 was spent on hotel rooms, while even more money -- $147,301 -- was spent on banquets. Another $23,380 was spent on undisclosed spa treatments and another $6,939 was spent on golf. A full $9,980 was spent on room service and food and cocktails at the hotel lounge."

glad i could pay for your spa treatments you insufferable douchebags.

[Steve85]

I agree... spending more on spa treatments than golf and drinks is a sure sign the end is near. If the this is the modern day corporate exec then keep me in my cube. I do have a nice view and all.

[ScottyB]

I agree... spending more on spa treatments than golf and drinks is a sure sign the end is near.

tell me about it...gold+drinks should be WAY more :lol:

more of just a vent about some lameness, not really an "end is near" thing...just didn't know where else to put it.

[WRXtranceformed]

Lol... they have to make the National Debt Clock bigger!

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[BLINGMW]

Lol... they have to make the National Debt Clock bigger!

oh. yea. lolers.

[Apoc]

I'm too lazy to click thru, was it this thread we predicted 9000 being the bottom? Oh well...

[Evan]

I'm too lazy to click thru, was it this thread we predicted 9000 being the bottom? Oh well...

I think mikey predicted 9500?

there is a good possibility of a rally tomorrow to take advantage of the low prices (but people have been saying that since day 4 of losses)

I call 7500 next year sometime, but Im pretty pessimistic.
If it does hit 7500 and I still havent bought a house Im going all in.

[Mike]

I'm too lazy to click thru, was it this thread we predicted 9000 being the bottom? Oh well...

I think mikey predicted 9500?

just means we're more screwed than i thought

[Kaan]

I think it might level out about 10% higher than the start of the housing boom. If it people can hang in there that is. so i'm looking at about 6500 to 6650 when it levels out again. hold on tight.

[Apoc]

Heard on the Junkies this morning that the tech bust in 2000 saw a market drop of 70-something%. We're only at 40% in the last few weeks so while it seems like a lot, we've seen worse in the last 10 years.

[WRXtranceformed]

Hahah.. I'm embarrassed to say that I'm an American sometimes. There are so many dumb shit people that live and vote here it astounds me. This is exactly why I firmly believe we are fucked no matter who gets in the office.

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At a rally in Minnesota on Friday, a woman told McCain: "I don't trust Obama. I have read about him and he's an Arab."

No McCain, it probably wasn't an Obama infiltrator at your rally. That IS ACTUALLY one of the dumb shit supporters who is solely voting for you because apparently Obama is a terrorist.

[HAULN-SS]

Yeah, there are some real dumb shits in this country. I heard the live audio of that. People saying that shit forces him to say that obama is a decent guy, which is kind of not what you want to spend 2 minutes talking about in your stump speech. I really wish the voting age was like 31 or so. Even though we'd still have a bunch of dumb shits voting, at least it'd cut out the naive dumb shits.

[WRXtranceformed]

What we need to have is an IQ test that you have to pass before you're allowed to vote.

[WRXtranceformed]

Hah well, I just saw a McCain approved ad on TV that mentioned that Obama associated with a known terrorist. The other side of the story was that the guy they're talking about lived in the same neighborhood as Obama when he was 8, and then spoke to him several times over the years. McCain can't be surprised about those kinds of outbreaks at his rallies when he's part of the root of the misinformation.

I'm not taking sides because again I don't really care... that whole situation just astounds me. All federal politicians are such fucking crooks.

[.RJ]

he's part of the root of the misinformation

What misinformation? The only problem is that they dance around the issue instead of going straight for it.

But, I dont really have a problem with that guy, all that shit was back in the 60's. Mccain should be going after the $100 million flushed away into the corrupt chicago political machine in his ads, or maybe that Ayers wrote Obama's biography :dunno:

[WRXtranceformed]

What misinformation? The only problem is that they dance around the issue instead of going straight for it.

At a rally in Minnesota on Friday, a woman told McCain: "I don't trust Obama. I have read about him and he's an Arab."

I know they're two unrelated issues (although they aren't unrelated to a lot of dummies out there, but that's another story) but that's what I'm getting at. If you're going to talk shit about someone, make it a legitimate issue like the ones you pointed out. Unfortunately, a lot of people are too dense to not believe everything they read.

[.RJ]

Unfortunately, a lot of people are too dense to not believe everything they read.

A stupid person's vote counts just as much as mine

[WRXtranceformed]

I know man...

[G.Irish]

or maybe that Ayers wrote Obama's biography :dunno:

Huh? No he didn't. Ayers has written several books but none of them was an Obama biography.

Either way, this guilt by association game is a losing strategy for the McCain campaign. Hillary tried it and failed, so it'd be pretty silly to believe that pulling it out of mothballs 30 days before the election is going to net any different results than Hillary got.