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D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:Have you ever driven one? A little less "want" after doing it. Still waiting to drive an IRS one though
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ScottyB Wrote:what the hell's up with the skateboard wheel fitment on the stang? is there some function that it provides for better drifting? i hope so.
JustinG Wrote:Wider front track for better steering?
Yeah, pretty much


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D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:
fiveoh2go Wrote:OR you could just build one of these...hmm

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Have you ever driven one? A little less "want" after doing it. Still waiting to drive an IRS one though
Want became strong on those years ago when I saw a twin supercharged variant at a car show in Purcellville. I think the dude said it was 650+whp...he said it was terrifying but gratifying to drive. A silver one pulled out in front of me today on the way to work and it sounded sweeeeet
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Don't get me wrong, I LOVE them. Super sweet, but I was turned off by the way they drive. I want to drive a modern IRS one, hope the steering, chassis, suspension feels a lot more crisp and smooth (and some damn finesse). I rented one as I was thinking of building one (at the time instead of the race car, I made the right choice).
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Can you be more specific about how it sucked to drive?
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was this from one of those exotic rental places? if so, keep in mind that those cars are ragged on all day in desert heat and are only maintained enough to keep them rolling.
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Mike Wrote:was this from one of those exotic rental places? if so, keep in mind that those cars are ragged on all day in desert heat and are only maintained enough to keep them rolling.

Yes, but not the first and only time I drove one. A friend's was much better, but it is still a kit car. Does not have that "finesse" that a modern porsche, bmw, and (yes) a modern corvette. I think the big problem is that I had built it up in my mind a lot more than can be reasonably expected out of a "kit" car.

I certainly wouldnt do a "donor build". Therefore my want reduced, as to get it the way I want it, I would have to go the expensive route. Full tilton brake/clutch setup, flaming river steering rack, IRS kit (which is still just a thunderbird rear suspension), and massive tires. The car doesn't have the grip it should have considering the components, so you have to make it up with tire.

Edit: Remember, most Factory Five Cobras (if we are talking reasonable pricing here under $50k), are built from Fox-Body mustang parts, probably one of the worst cars ever to pull steering, and rear solid axle suspension/geometry from. (sorry Matt)
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D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:Edit: Remember, most Factory Five Cobras (if we are talking reasonable pricing here under $50k), are built from Fox-Body mustang parts, probably one of the worst cars ever to pull steering, and rear solid axle suspension/geometry from. (sorry Matt)
I don't know about worst ever, but I get your point. Let's be real here....Fox bodies (with their stock suspension that was designed during the Carter administration) are best left to pealing away from stop lights and going down the 1/4, NOT carving corners. I know that and I'm cool with that.


You need to find a ERA or Shelby continuation series car to drive before placing final judgement on these beasts. Although they are big money, those cars have the IRS, steering, and brakes that match or exceed the original cars capabilities. And if it doesn't have a big block FE Ford engine in it....don't even bother! :twisted:
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fiveoh2go Wrote:You need to find a ERA or Shelby continuation series car to drive before placing final judgement on these beasts. Although they are big money, those cars have the IRS, steering, and brakes that match or exceed the original cars capabilities. And if it doesn't have a big block FE Ford engine in it....don't even bother! :twisted:

I was gonna ask - was the one you drove a FFR? A bunch of kits have turrible ladder frames that basically serve to get the car rolling without much thought to handling (Street Beasts, Backdraft, even Superformance I believe, to name a few).
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Goodspeed Wrote:
fiveoh2go Wrote:You need to find a ERA or Shelby continuation series car to drive before placing final judgement on these beasts. Although they are big money, those cars have the IRS, steering, and brakes that match or exceed the original cars capabilities. And if it doesn't have a big block FE Ford engine in it....don't even bother! :twisted:

I was gonna ask - was the one you drove a FFR? A bunch of kits have turrible ladder frames that basically serve to get the car rolling without much thought to handling (Street Beasts, Backdraft, even Superformance I believe, to name a few).

Yes, the "friends" was and was much better. However, it is still a kit car. Don't worry, if I run into stupid money ill be building a full IRS, flaming river steering rack, race control armed, procharged FFR. I wouldn't hold your breathe. :lol:
Actually a bick block Ford motor is heavy and hurts handling from what I have heard. Have either of you guys driven them? It just seems like I am catching a lot of flack for my OPINION (didnt say everyone else had to agree).

Driving old muscles cars also ruined them for me. Cool as crap, but god I don't like driving them at all. (and worse of all I didnt particularly like the E39 m5, yes sacrilige)

Edit: and yes I drove a turbo eclipse a few years back, talk about numb chassis and steering. I wouldnt buy one now :?
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Back on topic, Brian Bowers got his dad's Panoz almost done...
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I've followed his build thread on Vadriven for awhile. It's amazing.
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D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:Back on topic, Brian Bowers got his dad's Panoz almost done...

esperante? one of the ugliest cars ever.
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D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:Have either of you guys driven them? It just seems like I am catching a lot of flack for my OPINION (didnt say everyone else had to agree)

No flack intended, I was just curious what chassis it was. A replica Cobra is usually in my "fantasy garage" cloud somewhere, but you hardly hear about any of the other mfr's cars from a handling standpoint, or really from anyone who has any interest in the dynamics of the car beyond pulling into and out of a car show. I was looking for a confirmation-of-crapiness, so to speak, if that car was indeed anything other than a FFR.
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D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:(and worse of all I didnt particularly like the E39 m5, yes sacrilige)

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