Official MM Firearms Thread

[WRXtranceformed]

So are Tavor's trash then?  I've always had a hard on for an SAR

I don't know where you got that from, but Tavors are fine, for a bullpup. Maybe best of breed. But one must acknowledge the platforms limitations. 

Lemme give you an example. You're shooting your AR15/Tavor, and your trigger goes mush. You expect a bang, get mush. How to remediate?

On an AR you 'bring the weapon into your workspace' and evaluate. Is the bolt closed? Is the magazine seated? Etc etc etc. I'm not an instructor, there are videos for that kind of thing. A Bullpup is the same, follow the same steps...but the steps are different. Dramatically so in some cases. (How do you check the chamber of an F2000? Hint: step one is remove the mag, step two is turn the frigging thing upside down) 

There isn't a whole lot of training/muscle memory carryover from a conventional layout to a bullpup. The balance is different, the manual of arms is different, the reload process is different (Try doing a tac reload on a Tavor without taking your eyes off the target, good fucking luck.). It's not that it's trash, it's that it really is pretty different to operate. You really have to commit to that platform, I don't think going from one to the other is really feasible. (My opinion, worth what you paid for it.) 

By all accounts the Tavor JewBlaster95 is an excellent firearm, and very well suited to the kind of fighting that the Israelis do. (Lots of house-clearing and looking for Hamas rockets, etc.) But they don't really get into extended firefights, they never have a fight where they don't have overwhelming force on tap, almost never engage beyond 250m, etc etc etc. And they STILL use assloads of M4's and M16's from Uncle Sam for their reserve forces.

Makes sense.  I've never had an issue per se with my AR platform it just seems a little long and unwieldy for a gun with not a lot of stopping power.  I always felt like the Tavor would let you shoot from more compact scenarios/profiles, but that's probably just my ignorance and lack of tactical shooting training