02-10-2017, 06:48 PM
If you want a Ford ST, get the Fiesta over the Focus.
I hope you can realize the complete lack of an argument you made against "base model Fords" given your one experience with your dad's work Focus SE automatic. First of all, the PowerShift DCT is widely considered garbage (which his car had). Clear solution, don't buy that DCT. Second, a base Focus with a 5-speed is a very enjoyable car to drive. Try it. Third, a base Fiesta with the 1.0L EcoBoost and manual trans sounds like a cheap, efficient, blast of a car to drive. Again, worth trying.
It sounds like you hate VW at the level that I hate GM, so fair is fair - although they have really great deals on literally everything right now because of the diesel cars. My friend just got a fully-loaded Golf Wolfsburg for $21k OTD, and GTIs were another +$5k ish. Really not bad and they drive better than a lot of rivals.
The Veloster is an Accent in drag.
I hope you can realize the complete lack of an argument you made against "base model Fords" given your one experience with your dad's work Focus SE automatic. First of all, the PowerShift DCT is widely considered garbage (which his car had). Clear solution, don't buy that DCT. Second, a base Focus with a 5-speed is a very enjoyable car to drive. Try it. Third, a base Fiesta with the 1.0L EcoBoost and manual trans sounds like a cheap, efficient, blast of a car to drive. Again, worth trying.
It sounds like you hate VW at the level that I hate GM, so fair is fair - although they have really great deals on literally everything right now because of the diesel cars. My friend just got a fully-loaded Golf Wolfsburg for $21k OTD, and GTIs were another +$5k ish. Really not bad and they drive better than a lot of rivals.
The Veloster is an Accent in drag.
Now:
'16 Ram 1500 | '97 BMW M3 | Some Press Loan
Then:
87 BMW 325e | 91 BMW 535i | 96 BMW 328i | 95 BMW 325i | 95 Mazda Miata | 13 Focus ST | 09 BMW 128i | 00 Pontiac Firebird | 05 Yukon Denali | 96 BMW 328iC | 11 Ford F-150 | 06 BMW M3 | 10 Range Rover SC | '03 Ford Ranger | '18 Ford F-150 | '01 BMW X5 | '98 Volvo S70 T5M
'16 Ram 1500 | '97 BMW M3 | Some Press Loan
Then:
87 BMW 325e | 91 BMW 535i | 96 BMW 328i | 95 BMW 325i | 95 Mazda Miata | 13 Focus ST | 09 BMW 128i | 00 Pontiac Firebird | 05 Yukon Denali | 96 BMW 328iC | 11 Ford F-150 | 06 BMW M3 | 10 Range Rover SC | '03 Ford Ranger | '18 Ford F-150 | '01 BMW X5 | '98 Volvo S70 T5M