11-02-2004, 07:17 PM
G.Irish Wrote:Ah yes not taking out Bin Laden. Kind of like how Bush had him cornered in the mountains but pulled the troops and intelligence off that mission to go to Iraq?"Uh..I think he is over somewhere in those mountains" does not mean "cornered"
And recent intelligence suggests he was not at Tora Bora at that time at all
(and shame on you for parroting the kerry party line without further insight)
We literally had Osama under clinton. As in, he is in that truck right there, press the button and he is dead.
Big difference.
Quote:Again, I'm not saying everything is Bush's fault but it certainly is not all Clinton's fault. What about the 1st World Trade Center bombing? It happened 1 month after inauguration so you have to point the finger at the previous administration.I didnt say it was his fault that it happened, it was his fault that he didnt do anything about it. It was his fault he didnt do shit against the terrorists that did it. You sure as hell cant say that about GWB.
Why is it that the media and democrats have no problems holding bush to a 20/20 hindsight, but always weasel their way out when the tables are turned?
To be honest, I dont blame clinton terribly for the intelligence cuts of the early and mid 90s. The situation at that time was that of coming off the cold war, and GB Sr. actually started the intel cuts. What I do blame him on is failing to act and nip much of the terrorism threat in the bud, even after being hit with 2 attacks.
What worries me more that all this talk about what did happen with clinton, is Kerry's repeated insistence on Intel budget cuts over his senate career, and what that will mean if he gets elected to president. In 1994 after Clinton had already cut the budgets by 1.2 bil, Kerry called the budget "madness" and wanted to cut it by an additional 6 billion.
Kerry tried again in 95 to cut 1.5 billion from the intel budget, but the bill was so not even Ted Kennedy agreed with him.
In 1997 said before the senate ÔÇ£Now that [the Cold War] struggle is over, why is it that our vast intelligence apparatus continues to grow?ÔÇØ
Kerry has also called the National Reconnaissance Office "wasteful" even recently.