Jumping red lights on a bicycle

[Sijray21]

Edit 2: Its hard to really explain this in really good way to someone who has not spent a lot of time riding on the roads. Log a few thousand miles outside and there's a much different perspective and most drivers are not cyclist hating asshats, and probably indifferent to our place on the road (for better or worse).

i agree with you. there are a certain, select few that cause issues on the road, but most drivers are not only 'ok' with bicyclists, they tend to offer you the right of way. this is kind of why i said to put less emphasis on this. where i do think it does create a stigma against cyclists, i don't think this has the same effect on a driver as say a speeding, lane-splitting motorcyclist. i'm saying the stigma isn't really worth much and doesn't carry a heavy affect on most drivers.