10-26-2007, 02:46 PM
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Ok... just trying to give an honest opinion here - I dont think you really get alot for your $$ - you can buy non-adjustable dampers for less than the price of the Konis, but what do you get with the dampers?
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Not much... they dont build very much force at low speed, and this is what controls the chassis. They also build up a lot of high speed force, so ride quality wont be great over harsh roads and bumps on track either. This still looks pretty good compared to a lot of the other dampers I've seen, so all is not lost.
Where do the springs come from? They're certainly not Eibach - I wouldnt use anything else, too many quality control issues with most other springs that I've seen - with Eibach you know what you're getting, every time and its the same as whats marked on the spring.
Or, you can spend more than a set of konis/GC's and get this - same problem as with the others not building very much damping force at low speed and the adjustment range is really kind of crap - indicative of cheap adjustment inside the shock.
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There's some good shock dyno info here:
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Ground control sells a set of coilover sleeves on their site for $300, and you can find a set of Konis usually under $550 new.
I DO freebase the koolaid with the Koni stuff, but I have always been happy with them on my cars. I wish they'd hurry up with the truck shocks
Ok... just trying to give an honest opinion here - I dont think you really get alot for your $$ - you can buy non-adjustable dampers for less than the price of the Konis, but what do you get with the dampers?
Not much... they dont build very much force at low speed, and this is what controls the chassis. They also build up a lot of high speed force, so ride quality wont be great over harsh roads and bumps on track either. This still looks pretty good compared to a lot of the other dampers I've seen, so all is not lost.
Where do the springs come from? They're certainly not Eibach - I wouldnt use anything else, too many quality control issues with most other springs that I've seen - with Eibach you know what you're getting, every time and its the same as whats marked on the spring.
Or, you can spend more than a set of konis/GC's and get this - same problem as with the others not building very much damping force at low speed and the adjustment range is really kind of crap - indicative of cheap adjustment inside the shock.
There's some good shock dyno info here:
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Ground control sells a set of coilover sleeves on their site for $300, and you can find a set of Konis usually under $550 new.
I DO freebase the koolaid with the Koni stuff, but I have always been happy with them on my cars. I wish they'd hurry up with the truck shocks