05-29-2007, 08:31 PM
Lets back this thread up into the realm of logical, applicable discussion.
The original statement that pegs the BS-o-meter...
Now you're getting into apples and oranges here -
You're not at the dragstrip, or on sticky tires. You're still on the same sandy, traction limited, broken pavement. So, you add a DSM link. Now what? You still have the same issues to contend with and the link isnt going to sprinkle magic traction dust on your tires. I'm not talking about a FWD car with street tires. I'm talking about taking the same car, putting the new software in, and suddenly knocking off 1-2 seconds off at the start, and thats what doesnt add up. Your typical start is going to be 60' or less, which is why I brought up looking at 60 foot times, not to introduce comparison to other cars, other tires, and so on. Your best case is gaining a few tenths off the line - and even that is generous - and making more consistent starts.
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Not trying to shit up the thread here... just shedding some light as i've done a "few" autocrosses and a "few" different cars.
The original statement that pegs the BS-o-meter...
D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:Dsmlink will increase your reliability, power, and also decrease your autox times by shaving 1-2 seconds at the start with the launch feature.
Now you're getting into apples and oranges here -
D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:OMG RJ, your smart, read previous posts, I already posted up 60 foot times. And remember the 60foot drag times are with burnouts and good drag strip launch pavement. A pavement has nowhere near the traction. So, if stock tired or street tired DSMs are pulling consistent 1.6 and a good street tired fwd is pulling 2.0, thats .4 seconds difference in OPTIMAL conditions. Now lets throw in some dirt, cracked pavement, and sand (especially at verona) and lets see where this awd launch will really get a kickstart. Also the 1-2 seconds is just not in the launch but in the focus you can put in that first corner instead of worrying about launch/first corner.
You're not at the dragstrip, or on sticky tires. You're still on the same sandy, traction limited, broken pavement. So, you add a DSM link. Now what? You still have the same issues to contend with and the link isnt going to sprinkle magic traction dust on your tires. I'm not talking about a FWD car with street tires. I'm talking about taking the same car, putting the new software in, and suddenly knocking off 1-2 seconds off at the start, and thats what doesnt add up. Your typical start is going to be 60' or less, which is why I brought up looking at 60 foot times, not to introduce comparison to other cars, other tires, and so on. Your best case is gaining a few tenths off the line - and even that is generous - and making more consistent starts.
Not trying to shit up the thread here... just shedding some light as i've done a "few" autocrosses and a "few" different cars.
