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2004 Subaru WRX w/54k Miles - $14.5k - Apoc - 12-14-2007
Not mine but the seller races with us. I know these are popular with this crowd so I figured it couldn't hurt to crosspost. Contact the seller directly using the info on the page below.
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The car is slightly modified to Cobb Stage 2 specifications. This includes changing the stock up-pipe (from the engine to the turbo) and the stock downpipe (from the turbo to the exhaust). It also includes their Accessport computer modifications. The result of all of this is that the horsepower is bumped up from 227 HP stock to 285 HP.
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- WRXtranceformed - 12-14-2007
Heh, 285hp is being EXTREMELY generous on the Cobb OTS Stage 2 tune. My old 2004 WRX only put down a whopping 199whp with their stage 2 setup. 285 at the crank? Hardly.
- .RJ - 12-14-2007
WRXtranceformed Wrote:My old 2004 WRX only put down a whopping 199whp with their stage 2 setup.
And what did it put down stock, on the same dyno?
- Apoc - 12-14-2007
Yeah... I'd think 199 would be close to what you'd get stock.
- .RJ - 12-14-2007
There's a lot of drivetrain loss with AWD - and if the dyno reads generally low (every dyno is different), then I dont see a problem with the numbers - the dyno is just a tool anyways.
- WRXtranceformed - 12-14-2007
I didn't dyno it on the same dyno stock, but most stock WRXs were putting down around 170 on that dyno.
Cobb's off the shelf maps run too rich, and 199 on that dyno is pretty typical from what they were telling me. I don't know how they got 285 crank out of an off the shelf map... maybe with a really generous dyno and a lot of smoothing
Good example of an overinflated marketing tool.
- .RJ - 12-14-2007
The car is 230hp stock, correct? At 285hp, given same drivetrain losses/dyno variation, should be 210 at the wheels.
Not really very far off.
- WRXtranceformed - 12-14-2007
The '04 was 227hp. Stage 2 should be closer to 220-225 at the wheels, but then we're just counting beans. That's what most of the ProTuned guys are getting. A loss of 86 hp from the drivetrain is a lot at that power level, which is why I still contend that Cobb's OTS maps are closer to 265-270hp.
- WRXtranceformed - 12-14-2007
Anyway I'm not trying to shit up his thread, I'm sure he'll sell it quick... but if I was him I'd unmarry the Accessport and put the exhaust back to stock and sell them separately. He'll get the same money for his WRX and pocket another $1200 or so from the mods.
- .RJ - 12-14-2007
WRXtranceformed Wrote:A loss of 86 hp from the drivetrain is a lot at that power level
Which is why the dyno is just a tuning tool
As power goes up, drivetrain losses go up in proportion
- ScottyB - 12-14-2007
seems like a fair price for a garaged, adult owned, lightly modded '04. i bet the used market has alot of WRX's up there, though.
- Evan - 12-14-2007
Apoc Wrote:Yeah... I'd think 199 would be close to what you'd get stock.wrxs put down 165-170 stock
- Apoc - 12-14-2007
Well they suck!
- .RJ - 12-14-2007
Apoc Wrote:Well they suck!
Probably more HP than your POS audi puts to the ground!
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- Apoc - 12-14-2007
no waiiiii..... unpossible!
- D_Eclipse9916 - 12-14-2007
Evan Wrote:Apoc Wrote:Yeah... I'd think 199 would be close to what you'd get stock.wrxs put down 165-170 stock
wuuuutt?? I would think with 227 crank theyd put down more than that, 165-170 is what 2nd gen gsxs do stock with "crank" 210 horsepower. I think subaru might have been a little generous with the horsepower like bmw with the m3.