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Hypothetical Garage - - Europe Edition - Apoc - 11-04-2017

Assume you live in a right-hand traffic (left-hand drive) country in Europe. This means you have legit access to all the European models, including the ones that never made it to the US. We all have those stupid ideas, like a TVR, but what are you filling your garage with assuming the following? Any vehicles need to already be legal to operate in Europe, so doing a fresh import from Japan is only possible if it's already legally registered in the EU.

> Budget: 50,000 USD / 43,000 EUR (total sales price[s], excluding tax/fees)
> You can spend the money on one, two, or a dozen vehicles
> You need at least one family vehicle, which includes a legitimate trunk, four or more doors, automatic, and is reliable)
> Spending all the money on one car means you're walking, biking, or taking public transportation
> The second vehicle doesn't have to be a car, but winter commutes are gonna be cold and dark
> The second vehicle can be a manual, but you will commute in a city with it
> Your family drives 10k miles/year, excluding road trips, but you're obviously going to be touring Europe by car
> You live in a city or barely outside it; parallel parking is a definite
> Tracking either car isn't an option, but you may do some untimed events if your second vehicle is cool enough
> Towing something lightweight with at least one vehicle would be a nice bonus

edit: the bulleted list function is broken


RE: Hypothetical Garage - - Europe Edition - Senor_Taylor - 11-04-2017

Why are you being so specific with the requirements? Are you up to something?

Anyway, here's my list.

$2000 E30 - DD
$2000 Toyota Hilux - Other DD
$2000 90s Ranger Rover - Third DD
$2000 Jaguar XJ - Family Car
$2000 E46 - for the kid to learn to hate life with
$2000 Citroen Hatch - to impress the kids down by the roundabout
$2000 Diesel Land Cruiser - for the missus
$2000 Fiat Spider for when I need to look professional
$2000 VW Sirocco - for when I want to impress the kids down by the trolley
$2000 Maserati Merak - for when I want to wear my plaid shorts
$2000 Ford Cortina - To drive on Tuesdays
$2000 hookers and blow
$26000 The cleanest reliant robin you've ever seen.


RE: Hypothetical Garage - - Europe Edition - ispoonwithmugen - 11-04-2017

Ohhhh I like this idea

Daily/fun car: Audi S1 (25k euros)
Haul shit around in: Toyota Hilux
Overland/4wd/camp in: Toyota LandCruiser diesel
Overland/4wd/camp in (for lillie) Land Rover Defender diesel
Sprited driving: Audi rally car or Porsche 911


RE: Hypothetical Garage - - Europe Edition - .RJ - 11-04-2017

RS4/RS6 AVANT OR GTFO


Hypothetical Garage - - Europe Edition - JustinG - 11-04-2017

Hilux beater
M5 estate dd


RE: Hypothetical Garage - - Europe Edition - Apoc - 11-05-2017

(11-04-2017, 03:30 PM)Senor_Taylor Wrote: Why are you being so specific with the requirements? Are you up to something?

At least I didn't say it had to be within 100 km? Honestly, there's very little in the way of requirements for the cars. I'm just trying to get everyone in the same life stage, to see how people would spend their money if they had to be somewhat responsible. The impetus was me having lunch with someone who just came back from a three year stint in Europe. He said they were a one car family while there, so that got me thinking.


(11-04-2017, 06:14 PM).RJ Wrote: RS4/RS6 AVANT OR GTFO

You're looking at 10 y/o or more, so that doesn't really fit the bill. RS3 Sportback?

Didn't they stop making the M5 estates like 10 years ago too? I can't see having a truck in a city? I'm thinking maybe you guys haven't lived like inside a large city? Or maybe I just think of city living differently... like, wanting to fit in smaller parking spots.


RE: Hypothetical Garage - - Europe Edition - .RJ - 11-05-2017

(11-05-2017, 12:11 AM)Apoc Wrote:
(11-04-2017, 06:14 PM).RJ Wrote: RS4/RS6 AVANT OR GTFO

You're looking at 10 y/o or more, so that doesn't really fit the bill. RS3 Sportback?

Didn't they stop making the M5 estates like 10 years ago too? I can't see having a truck in a city? I'm thinking maybe you guys haven't lived like inside a large city? Or maybe I just think of city living differently... like, wanting to fit in smaller parking spots.

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[img]RS4/RS6 AVANT OR GTFO[/img]


RE: Hypothetical Garage - - Europe Edition - SlimKlim - 11-05-2017

As many S50B32 E36s as $50k can buy you in Germany. Fuck your automatic.


RE: Hypothetical Garage - - Europe Edition - D_Eclipse9916 - 11-05-2017

Gimme:

$15k Land Rover Defender Diesel for the wife (she loves them).
$15k E36 M3 Euro GT for daily when I am not using public transportation and fun/light track car.
$20k for two parking spots in the city so I dont have deal with the BS of street parking.


RE: Hypothetical Garage - - Europe Edition - .RJ - 11-05-2017

God dammit all of you people are broken


RE: Hypothetical Garage - - Europe Edition - Apoc - 11-05-2017

(11-05-2017, 06:53 PM).RJ Wrote: God dammit all of you people are broken

So is your real answer a 10 year old RSthing?


RE: Hypothetical Garage - - Europe Edition - JustinG - 11-06-2017

(11-05-2017, 12:11 AM)Apoc Wrote: Didn't they stop making the M5 estates like 10 years ago too? I can't see having a truck in a city? I'm thinking maybe you guys haven't lived like inside a large city? Or maybe I just think of city living differently... like, wanting to fit in smaller parking spots.


If that's too old, I change my answer to an E63 AMG Estate


RE: Hypothetical Garage - - Europe Edition - .RJ - 11-06-2017

(11-05-2017, 10:25 PM)Apoc Wrote:
(11-05-2017, 06:53 PM).RJ Wrote: God dammit all of you people are broken

So is your real answer a 10 year old RSthing?

They didnt stop selling them in Europe like they did in the US in 2008.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2013-AUDI-A4-RS4-AVANT-4-2-FSI-QUATTRO-S-TRONIC-SPORTS-EXHAUST-FASH-MORE/322860531119?hash=item4b2bfcbdaf:g:zCkAAOSwPpZZ9eU7

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2014-AUDI-A6-4-0-V8-RS6-AVANT-TFSI-V8-QUATTRO-ONLY-8000-MILES-DYNAMIC-STEERING/112561729252?hash=item1a3533aee4:g:hYsAAOSwg7VZmfpu


RE: Hypothetical Garage - - Europe Edition - BLINGMW - 11-06-2017

1) 2017 6cyl, 6spd manual diesel Merc Vito, the reliable family hauler and countryside tour vacationer, can also handle light towing and picking up home things. $40k

2) 2010ish BMW 120d, manual, convertible for less reliable daily use and weekend pilgrimages to nurburgring. $10k


RE: Hypothetical Garage - - Europe Edition - Apoc - 11-06-2017

(11-06-2017, 09:06 AM).RJ Wrote:
(11-05-2017, 10:25 PM)Apoc Wrote:
(11-05-2017, 06:53 PM).RJ Wrote: God dammit all of you people are broken

So is your real answer a 10 year old RSthing?

They didnt stop selling them in Europe like they did in the US in 2008.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2013-AUDI-A4-RS4-AVANT-4-2-FSI-QUATTRO-S-TRONIC-SPORTS-EXHAUST-FASH-MORE/322860531119?hash=item4b2bfcbdaf:g:zCkAAOSwPpZZ9eU7

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2014-AUDI-A6-4-0-V8-RS6-AVANT-TFSI-V8-QUATTRO-ONLY-8000-MILES-DYNAMIC-STEERING/112561729252?hash=item1a3533aee4:g:hYsAAOSwg7VZmfpu

I think you missed the budget cap. Getting either for under $50k requires you purchase something that's old. I couldn't find a LHD RS4 that isn't well out of warranty for under that amount. RS6? Fuggedaboutit.


RE: Hypothetical Garage - - Europe Edition - davej - 11-06-2017

I'd have a real hard time saying no to an RS2 and a Huffy 10 speed.

Let me digest this a bit more.


RE: Hypothetical Garage - - Europe Edition - .RJ - 11-06-2017

(11-06-2017, 11:13 AM)Apoc Wrote:
(11-06-2017, 09:06 AM).RJ Wrote:
(11-05-2017, 10:25 PM)Apoc Wrote:
(11-05-2017, 06:53 PM).RJ Wrote: God dammit all of you people are broken

So is your real answer a 10 year old RSthing?

They didnt stop selling them in Europe like they did in the US in 2008.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2013-AUDI-A4-RS4-AVANT-4-2-FSI-QUATTRO-S-TRONIC-SPORTS-EXHAUST-FASH-MORE/322860531119?hash=item4b2bfcbdaf:g:zCkAAOSwPpZZ9eU7

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2014-AUDI-A6-4-0-V8-RS6-AVANT-TFSI-V8-QUATTRO-ONLY-8000-MILES-DYNAMIC-STEERING/112561729252?hash=item1a3533aee4:g:hYsAAOSwg7VZmfpu

I think you missed the budget cap. Getting either for under $50k requires you purchase something that's old. I couldn't find a LHD RS4 that isn't well out of warranty for under that amount. RS6? Fuggedaboutit.

The RS4 I posted was under the budget.  I didnt look for LHD cars, so if the market is different b/t UK & the rest of Yurop, I dont know what to say.

I'd probably add a vintage Vespa to that garage for city riding, and be set.


RE: Hypothetical Garage - - Europe Edition - Apoc - 11-06-2017

The RS4 you posted hadn't met the reserve.

Also, are you really putting your family in a likely-out-of-warranty 450 hp Audi while you take your Vespa to work? I don't buy it.


RE: Hypothetical Garage - - Europe Edition - .RJ - 11-06-2017

(11-06-2017, 12:59 PM)Apoc Wrote: The RS4 you posted hadn't met the reserve.

Also, are you really putting your family in a likely-out-of-warranty 450 hp Audi while you take your Vespa to work? I don't buy it.

I mean, I've made worse automotive purchasing decisions. Our car situation this summer was a 135 and a Vespa.

Laura sent me a photo of a blue M2 while on vacation and said "I like this one"


RE: Hypothetical Garage - - Europe Edition - Apoc - 11-06-2017

There's a difference between only impacting yourself and stranding your wife/kid because of your bad choices.