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- white_2kgt - 04-12-2006
Nick325is Wrote:All I know is that when I installed my front strut tower bar I had to let the car sit on jackstands for awhile and use a prybar to get the bar onto the shock towers.
This meant that I had a decent amount of suspension sag which is common on these cars with higher miles.
I would say the strut bar made a big difference with the overall rigidity of the front of the car.
Translated as:
.RJ Wrote:"my dashboard creaked less when I go up my driveway at an angle y0, it works!!11!1"
- Jeff - 04-12-2006
lol
- ScottyB - 04-12-2006
white_2kgt Wrote:My guess is he needs the clearance in the wheel well to drill holes and put the nuts on the bolts, aka, take the wheel off. Ramps won't do him much good for this install. If he could do it on ramps then, well, he wouldn't need them.
ah, for some reason i was thinking of an undercarriage stress bar.
- ViPER1313 - 04-12-2006
Easy test - measure the distance between the front jack point and the ground when the same side rear wheel starts to lift off of the ground. Measure this distance again with the bar on the car. If it really makes the chassis flex less there should be a measureable difference.
- Feersty - 04-12-2006
I have front and rear stress bars. The front without suspension slag should fit right on, but it doesn't considering I have 50,xxx miles. A decent jack is required under the LCA to lift it up. The rear stress bar requires taking the rear wheels off and drilling into the rear suspension indentation, I would just need half a days assistance from someone, the bars have been sitting around my house for a while, or Rex can come and help.
- Sijray21 - 04-12-2006
Feersty Wrote:drilling into the rear suspension indentation
what is that?
do you have a picture of the bar?
are you talking about a rear tie bar that reinforces the rear subframe?
- Feersty - 04-12-2006
It is a completely straight metal bar with holes at the end. Like a straw.
- Sijray21 - 04-12-2006
Feersty Wrote:It is a completely straight metal bar with holes at the end. Like a straw.
like a front strut bar?
does it come with rear links or something? usually you'd place the rear tie bar with the same bolts that connect the rear LCA's with the rear subframe
- Jeff - 04-12-2006
He has the same rear bar one would use on a Daytona from what I read...
![[Image: rsb.jpg]](http://csracer.com/rsb.jpg)
accept instead of being on top they are right into the side, with a bolt though the strut tower. I'm going to make something just like it when I get time.
- Feersty - 04-13-2006
Exactly Jeff.
- Feersty - 04-25-2006
Anyone wanna help me? I can bring my car to wherever, I will throw in some PBR.
- Feersty - 05-19-2006
Did my fogs the right way today, lamin-x film FTW.
- D_Eclipse9916 - 05-20-2006
ViPER1313 Wrote:Why do certain cars come with them from the factory? I want to see a real test that shows an improvement or no improvement.
Well, speculation has it that they do help, and heres an explanation everyone can benefit from, although wether there is actually weakness in that part of the car.
Think of a cardboard box, now push inwards or try to crush the box, very very easy. Now think of one little cardboard piece going across (like across a strut bar in middle of the engine bay) and try to crush the cardboard box. It will be much harder, there will be more strength. This is somewhat what you can think of , like a hole in your frame, the larger space where your engine is.
Other benefits are to keep the "side to side" motion of the strut towers linked at the top mount, less slop in the suspension. Go take your car out without the bar and go around a corner hard with a pothole or crack in the middle. Then take it out with the bar on, you will notice that with the strut bar on, when you hit it with one wheel, the other one also bounces and it does a "popping" motion where the whole front end moves together.
I am not saying this as pure scientific fact and it is very hard to speculate that this is all true. However, these are the supposed reasons. Almost like why u would put in a roll cage, as it helps strengthen the chassis, same logical reason behind the strut or tension bar. I did it because it was 40 bucks for both front and rear and it supposedly helped, at least on dsms. I tried it and I am 99% sure they worked, but I have no statistical proof, and we all know how accurate the butt dyno and g-meter does.
Feersty- Where are you located, and why the hell do you have to drill holes? If you need to, I am located in NOVA and got a drill and jack stands so let me know, I am always willing to help.
- Feersty - 05-20-2006
D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:Feersty- Where are you located, and why the hell do you have to drill holes? If you need to, I am located in NOVA and got a drill and jack stands so let me know, I am always willing to help.
I am in Springfield intersection of Old Keene Mill and Rolling Road. Yeah I have had these bars sitting around forever. I bought a jack from Walmart and it sucks so one of those would help as well. We can take this to PM.
- D_Eclipse9916 - 05-20-2006
alright then, pm me, I am in tysons.
- Feersty - 06-22-2006
PM'ed. I am tired of not being mechanically inclined.
- ScottyB - 06-22-2006
Feersty Wrote:PM'ed. I am tired of not being mechanically inclined.
none of us was born with the inate knowledge of how to bleed brakes, dissasemble engines, or install suspension. do your research homie.
- Feersty - 08-11-2006
Installed front stress bar, got 35% tint, and rotors and pads and bleeding brakes coming up.
- Nis01 - 08-12-2006
Nice Feersty. How do you like the tint, any pics with it installed? Plan on getting some in the near future as well.
- Feersty - 08-12-2006
Nis01 Wrote:Nice Feersty. How do you like the tint, any pics with it installed? Plan on getting some in the near future as well.
It's nice and I got a good deal on it through some folks from S2ki. I don't want to draw attention but obviously darken it up a bit. IMO 50% doesn't make any difference.