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RE: The Super Official Homeowners Thread - ScottyB - 10-24-2018
you guys have 'em too over on the west coast. they just really proliferate in the southeast.
agreed that all of them need to be sent into the sun on a rocket fueled by everyone's anxiety sweat
RE: The Super Official Homeowners Thread - CaptainHenreh - 10-25-2018
Discovered source of moisture in my basement: Bottom seam of water heater was puddled with water, implying internal leak.
Time for a new one. Drained old this morning, picked up new one at lowes, installed it over lunch break. booyah. I was worried about it, but I'm not sure why.
Quick question though: Am I the only one who flips the breaker, checks for a dead circuit with the meter, checks the meter with a live circuit, and then checks the dead circuit again...and still gets nervous touching bare wires?
RE: The Super Official Homeowners Thread - Steve85 - 10-25-2018
Nope, and if it's switched circuit add "tape the switch so someone doesn't come in and flip it and scare the shit out of me".
RE: The Super Official Homeowners Thread - Apoc - 10-25-2018
I've gotten to a point where I don't even turn off power when doing things like replacing light switches and outlets. I'm sure it's idiotic, but it's only a strong tingle when you do actually shock yourself.
I'll turn the breaker off after the second time I shock myself on a particular job.
RE: The Super Official Homeowners Thread - JPolen01 - 10-25-2018
If I am working alone I flip the breaker and don't worry. Getting zapped sucks but it (probably) won't kill you. Props that you got all that done on your lunch break...
(10-25-2018, 02:01 PM)Apoc Wrote: I've gotten to a point where I don't even turn off power when doing things like replacing light switches and outlets. I'm sure it's idiotic, but it's only a strong tingle when you do actually shock yourself.
I'll turn the breaker off after the second time I shock myself on a particular job.
Were you an electrician in a former life? All my buddies are like this. Willing to risk it rather than walk 10 more ft to flip the breaker.
The Super Official Homeowners Thread - ViPER1313 - 10-25-2018
I always flip the breaker and test with a meter... no reason not to.
My buddy works as a maintenance tech for a school campus and a lot of the stuff there has no immediately available breaker (or they have no clue where it is.) He said they work on 480v live all the time..... not a job for me.
RE: The Super Official Homeowners Thread - .RJ - 10-25-2018
I dont touch an outlet without killing the breaker and testing. No way.
RE: The Super Official Homeowners Thread - Apoc - 10-25-2018
(10-25-2018, 02:02 PM)JPolen01 Wrote:
(10-25-2018, 02:01 PM)Apoc Wrote: I've gotten to a point where I don't even turn off power when doing things like replacing light switches and outlets. I'm sure it's idiotic, but it's only a strong tingle when you do actually shock yourself.
I'll turn the breaker off after the second time I shock myself on a particular job.
Were you an electrician in a former life? All my buddies are like this. Willing to risk it rather than walk 10 more ft to flip the breaker.
Don't forget the flight of stairs!
It takes a lot of work to keep this physique I've spent decades achieving.
Note I've also held onto electric fences for fun. The more people you have join hands before someone touching it, the bigger the shock.
RE: The Super Official Homeowners Thread - Deceus - 10-25-2018
I'm entirely too comfortable doing that shit with my car. I've got a pretty good idea what's a constant hot or not since I redid the whole system but I've surprised myself and blown a couple fuses more than a few times.
RE: The Super Official Homeowners Thread - Evan - 10-25-2018
Ive always been decent with electrical stuff and never scared of it, but I always do about what Rex said when working on outlets or switches. I love my non-contact voltage detector.
Never been shocked until I was working on my dishwasher trying to fix a leak (CAUSED by an appliance repairman). Laying on my side, hand under the dishwasher and I got a big shock. Shortest path to ground was down my arm and then across my chest/heart and out my shoulder. My chest hurt for a month. That sucked.
I guess I should have flipped that breaker but it didnt even occur to me to be a risk.
what kind of asshole designed a live exposed wire under a dishwasher?
RE: The Super Official Homeowners Thread - Apoc - 10-25-2018
(10-25-2018, 02:53 PM)Evan Wrote: Shortest path to ground was down my arm and then across my chest/heart and out my shoulder. My chest hurt for a month. That sucked.
I think this is key. If I'm tinkering with a light switch, the circuit generally completes through your hand and gives you a short but intense tingle. I'm not screwing around with anything where the voltage is going near my heart. I'm sure not turning off the power is still dumb, but I'm emboldened by still being alive.
The Super Official Homeowners Thread - Sully - 10-25-2018
Yeah if I'm doing a fan, I'll generally just turn the switch off and I've done light switches without turning breaker off before as well. Normally I'll turn breaker off not definitely never check it with a meter.
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RE: The Super Official Homeowners Thread - Ryan T - 10-26-2018
I always flip the breaker and test for any electrical work.
The Super Official Homeowners Thread - D_Eclipse9916 - 10-26-2018
Unless it’s 220 I don’t bother turning off the breaker. I typically use rubber isolated cutters and needle nose to the work.
My mom turned on power when I was putting in a dimmer at age 12 or 13. My first experience and it was fine. I did do my job of making her feel bad about it (jokingly).
RE: The Super Official Homeowners Thread - Sijray21 - 10-26-2018
(10-26-2018, 08:48 AM)D_Eclipse9916 Wrote: Unless it’s 220 I don’t bother turning off the breaker. I typically use rubber isolated cutters and needle nose to the work.
My mom turned on power when I was putting in a dimmer at age 12 or 13. My first experience and it was fine. I did do my job of making her feel bad about it (jokingly).
Ha, not messing with amps stopping my heart. I'll flip the dumb breaker or hire an electrician. You also never know how the house is wired unless you've done all of the previous work yourself. A buddy of mine was working in a junction box and found that 2 separate circuits were wired together... gave him a little shock he wasn't prepared for.
RE: The Super Official Homeowners Thread - WRXtranceformed - 10-26-2018
I'll always flip the breakers, better safe then sorry
RE: The Super Official Homeowners Thread - .RJ - 10-29-2018
More adventure in home selling - the agent that showed up to the house an hour late on a saturday night, apparently did a showing here Saturday without requesting a time. I only know because my realtor said she opened the lockbox. Really disappointing.
And, because I was curious, I added up all my costs of home ownership so far, both in and out, and its cost me $1900/mo to own the house over 7 years - this is all costs, coming in, during, and going out. Cheaper than rent, I suppose, but its food for thought. Home ownership is a shitty investment so dont treat it as one.
RE: The Super Official Homeowners Thread - Sijray21 - 10-29-2018
(10-29-2018, 05:34 PM).RJ Wrote: More adventure in home selling - the agent that showed up to the house an hour late on a saturday night, apparently did a showing here Saturday without requesting a time. I only know because my realtor said she opened the lockbox. Really disappointing.
And, because I was curious, I added up all my costs of home ownership so far, both in and out, and its cost me $1900/mo to own the house over 7 years - this is all costs, coming in, during, and going out. Cheaper than rent, I suppose, but its food for thought. Home ownership is a shitty investment so dont treat it as one.
Can they do that if it's not an open house?
Also, did that count equity?
RE: The Super Official Homeowners Thread - .RJ - 10-29-2018
Costs
Interest Paid $90,000
HOA Fees, Total $11,025
Property Tax, Total $32,550
Improvements $30,000
Realtor Fees $26,340
Opportunity Cost Lost $35,000 (presumes I took my 10% down payment and invested it @ 8% since 2011, which is probably on the low side)
Total $224,915
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Gains
Sales Diff $67,000
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Net Cost $157,915
Per Year $22,559.29
Per Month $1,879.94
RE: The Super Official Homeowners Thread - Apoc - 10-29-2018
Your math is off because you have to account for the interest and property tax deductions from income tax.
It's not going to change the number a great deal, but you're including opportunity cost sooooo...
edit: unless you took the standard deduction
edit 2: i guess the real tax impact is difference tax liability when itemized vs. the standard