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Re: Please, do your part. Save the Manuals. - HAULN-SS - 07-30-2010
tl;dr
Re: Please, do your part. Save the Manuals. - D_Eclipse9916 - 07-30-2010
^^^ Can we make his a sticky too?
Put it well Maeng, just as guys still putt around with steam engined vehicles from early 1900s late 1800s, we too will be driving manuals for years to come.
Re: Please, do your part. Save the Manuals. - Jake - 07-30-2010
Stickied for posterity and because Maeng said what we all wanted to say.
Re: Please, do your part. Save the Manuals. - Steve85 - 07-30-2010
Todays commute inspired by the discussion and requisite FB status. (So happy to have this thing reliable again)
Some Dork on FB Wrote:Best commute ever today...100 miles, no traffic, no AC, no radio, no ABS, no airbags, no traction control, 3 pedals, 6 gears, and my right foot on the throat of a monster I built.
Re: Please, do your part. Save the Manuals. - WRXtranceformed - 07-31-2010
No AC is too "enthusiast" for me. He must not be anywhere near the south right now.
Re: Please, do your part. Save the Manuals. - Steve85 - 07-31-2010
WRXtranceformed Wrote:No AC is too "enthusiast" for me. He must not be anywhere near the south right now.
Oh yeah, I have NOT been driving it at all during the heat of the day this summer. Friday was a nice break from the oppressive heat.
Re: Please, do your part. Save the Manuals. - Jake - 07-31-2010
...de-stickied because the sheer brilliance of Brian Maeng has faded slightly and the 15 minutes of fame are up for now...
Re: Please, do your part. Save the Manuals. - BLINGMW - 01-26-2011
BLINGMW Wrote:...I can imagine a CVT with manual control that would be like: P, R, N, D, 3, 5. First 4 are hopefully obvious. "3" and "5" would be "hold at approximately that RPM". So you go on track, put that bitch in 5, and that's where it stays. Full throttle it floats up to 5500RPM, let off or brake and it gives you some engine braking and floats down to 4500 at the lowest. Engine's always ready for you and always at torque peak. Even from a standstill, it winds to 4500 and is ready for launch. 3 would be for towing or a hilly road where you're tired of the engine going to sleep on you and want some engine braking downhill too. I don't know if there's some technical reason CVTs can't handle this (maybe they explode?), but wouldn't that badass? Certainly much better than a "sport" mode that forces the CVT to "shift".
It's been done! :bow: ~2000ish Mitsubishi Mirage! Or 7th gen Mitsu Lancer, whatever you want to call it. We had one as a rental on vacation over the weekend, with a CVT. It was beat to hell and a total dog. BUT, after playing with the shifter a bit, I realized it was doing almost exactly what I'd described. In "D", it just tried to keep the revs as low as possible, and lag was pretty bad as revs climbed when you floored it. "Ds" at less than 20mph was about the same, but after 25 or so it started keeping revs around 3k and more throttle would let the revs climb more quickly. So once you got moving, there was some engine braking and the engine was ready if you needed to accelerate. And "L" moved that baseline up to about 5k! It was probably the best auto (had it not been sorta worn out and attached to a box of hamsters with asthma) I've ever driven. I was excited. :thumbup:
Re: Please, do your part. Save the Manuals. - DierwulfBL - 01-28-2011
After learning the Italia did not come in a legit manual was when I realized these flappy paddle non-sense boxes would take over. I figured many of the front runners (GT3/STi/etc) of many companies would stay the course though and only offer manual. Well the STi bit the dust this year, in Japan they offer the limited edition with a 6spd AT with paddles
. It's only a matter of time time before they're all gone, buy em while you still can, or at least buy enough supplies to rebuild your gearbox for years to come. In reality though, by the time most of us are in our 50s there will still be MANY manual options still out there. For instance, in other countries manual transmissions are far more prevalent than autos. It is this way in at least India (per my coworkers from the motherland) and Mexico from the couple trips I took down there.
Personally I can't even drive an auto, I learned on manual and have never owned a car that didn't have 3 pedals. There have been multiple occasions when I'm driving an automatic where it is downright dangerous for me to be driving. Anyone who solely drives manuals will understand this, driving along in an auto car and of course you forget cause you're cruising where you would have been in your final gear.......you need to slow down..........ok I'll just push the clutch in to downshift. OH SNAP that brake is huge and in the way SCCCREEEECCCCHHHH. Luckily this has always happened to be on country roads with no one behind me.
Moral of the story, I vote with my wallet and will continue to never personally own an auto/flappy paddle car.
TL
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Re: Please, do your part. Save the Manuals. - Mike - 01-29-2011
DierwulfBL Wrote:Anyone who solely drives manuals will understand this, driving along in an auto car and of course you forget cause you're cruising where you would have been in your final gear.......you need to slow down..........ok I'll just push the clutch in to downshift. OH SNAP that brake is huge and in the way SCCCREEEECCCCHHHH. Luckily this has always happened to be on country roads with no one behind me.
no, that doesn't happen to me.
Re: Please, do your part. Save the Manuals. - Ryan T - 01-29-2011
Mike Wrote:DierwulfBL Wrote:Anyone who solely drives manuals will understand this, driving along in an auto car and of course you forget cause you're cruising where you would have been in your final gear.......you need to slow down..........ok I'll just push the clutch in to downshift. OH SNAP that brake is huge and in the way SCCCREEEECCCCHHHH. Luckily this has always happened to be on country roads with no one behind me.
no, that doesn't happen to me.
I'm with Mike. That sounds more like poor/careless driving than being used to a manual.