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+--- Thread: My Car! 1988 Toyota Supra Turbo Targa 5-speed (/showthread.php?tid=6361)
- HAULN-SS - 09-17-2007
HAULN-SS Wrote:Dark car + dark wheels = barf.
This was the only part that mattered anyway.
- Maengelito - 09-17-2007
is the stock turbo only oil cooled or oil and water cooled?
- .RJ - 09-17-2007
Maengelito Wrote:is the stock turbo only oil cooled or oil and water cooled?
How good are the welds on the intake manifold?
- CaptainHenreh - 09-17-2007
Maengelito Wrote:is the stock turbo only oil cooled or oil and water cooled?
Should be oil and water.
Very few factory turbos are just oil cooled.
- Maengelito - 09-17-2007
its a legitimate question if he wants to get a turbo timer
- HaPpYfAcE - 09-17-2007
Maengelito Wrote:is the stock turbo only oil cooled or oil and water cooled?
it is both.
- Goodspeed - 09-17-2007
Maengelito Wrote:its a legitimate question if he wants to get a turbo timer
Well, all turbos, water cooled or not have oil circulating through them. Water cooling is just a method of using coolant as a heat sink to reduce the coking effect of oil in the turbo's center housing, increasing the longetivity of turbo life. I'd like a turbo timer to simply keep the car on after shut down so the hot oil can circulate out of the turbo instead of just sitting there. If you're saying that water cooling negates the need for a turbo timer, I don't think thats correct...I think its beneficial either way.
And...ROFL on the wheels debate. They're going black. I don't like the look of a lighter colored wheel on a dark silver car, looks odd to me so black it is.
- CaptainHenreh - 09-17-2007
Goodspeed Wrote:And...ROFL on the wheels debate. They're going black. I don't like the look of a lighter colored wheel on a dark silver car, looks odd to me so black it is.
Just remember what I said. If you see me with boots on, I'd go grab a cup if I were you.
- HaPpYfAcE - 09-17-2007
Goodspeed Wrote:Well, all turbos, water cooled or not have oil circulating through them. Water cooling is just a method of using coolant as a heat sink to reduce the coking effect of oil in the turbo's center housing, increasing the longetivity of turbo life. I'd like a turbo timer to simply keep the car on after shut down so the hot oil can circulate out of the turbo instead of just sitting there. If you're saying that water cooling negates the need for a turbo timer, I don't think thats correct...I think its beneficial either way.
i agree. not a major necessity, but can't hurt.
with water and oil cooled turbos you don't necessarily need to let them run for over 30 seconds after driving. honestly it's a matter of preference here. that's plenty of time for oil to circulate out. after hard runs or extended boosting, a longer cooldown could be observed, but even at a minute, that's the time it takes to gather your things before exiting the car. just don't turn the car off first. /shrug.
- WRXtranceformed - 09-17-2007
Yeah turbo timers IMO are mostly pointless. As long as you're not flogging the shit out of your car and then turn it off immediately, you should be fine. Even if you do a couple of WOT pulls and then drive your car a couple of minutes back to your home and turn it off, I wouldn't lose sleep over it. TTs are more of a gimmick than anything else.
Just use your brain and save $100 bucks. If you just drive your car up the street to the store and stay out of boost, it doesn't need to run for another minute.
- HAULN-SS - 09-17-2007
Goodspeed Wrote:And...ROFL on the wheels debate. They're going black. I don't like the look of a lighter colored wheel on a dark silver car, looks odd to me so black it is.
Much to learn, you have.
- Maengelito - 09-17-2007
Goodspeed Wrote:Maengelito Wrote:its a legitimate question if he wants to get a turbo timer
Well, all turbos, water cooled or not have oil circulating through them. Water cooling is just a method of using coolant as a heat sink to reduce the coking effect of oil in the turbo's center housing, increasing the longetivity of turbo life. I'd like a turbo timer to simply keep the car on after shut down so the hot oil can circulate out of the turbo instead of just sitting there. If you're saying that water cooling negates the need for a turbo timer, I don't think thats correct...I think its beneficial either way.
having a turbo timer wont hurt and if its for piece of mind, then thats fine. a water cooled system is kept under pressure. natural heat convection will circulate the coolant for a more even cooling of the entire system which would negate the need for a turbo timer on a stock piece. the oil cooled part will not circulate oil when the car is off. like i said, it wont hurt to have, but its definitely not necessary.
- Evan - 09-17-2007
dont forget that idling the car will increase the water temperature, up to around when the fan switch goes, around 210 degrees on most cars.
- Goodspeed - 09-23-2007
I KNOW WHAT MUST BE DONE.....
![[Image: PICT0189.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Turbo-Joe/PICT0189.jpg)
![[Image: PICT0190.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Turbo-Joe/PICT0190.jpg)
1JZ w/ Blitz K26 Twin Turbo's.
- CaptainHenreh - 09-24-2007
If you want to do that start hunting for a subframe now.
- Goodspeed - 09-26-2007
Update: I know there were some mumblings about black wheels on the car...well, a teaser:
![[Image: mycarblackevowheelstb8.jpg]](http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2131/mycarblackevowheelstb8.jpg)
DJ suggested putting on two of his Evo wheels w/Hoosiers to see how black wheels would look, and I'm sold. I absolutely loved the look, I think it makes the car look 10x meaner and more aggressive. I know, I know...theres a metric assload of wheel gap and hopefully that will be resolved in the future. Can you see how happy I am?
![[Image: blackwheelmexr4.jpg]](http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7755/blackwheelmexr4.jpg)
Well, I've gotten completely used to the car by now, the clutch and all, so I guess I can go ahead and list some future plans I've had floating around in my head. I won't say I have the technical skills to complete it all on my own but I'm itching to really get working on this car now that I have no reservations about driving it and to learn as much as I can.
Anyways, future plans:
Modify driver
Wideband
Alarm/turbo timer
Tokico Illumina's (TEMS compatible) w/ Eibachs
Repaint rear bumper cover, came to me with some spider web cracking in the paint
Some sort of audio system
Short shifter - very expensive for these cars
Intercooler - stock one is horrible on the MK3
I guess I could go way into the future and talk about upgraded fuel and a larger turbo setup etc etc but thats just a dream right now. I'd like to maintain the quality of the car first and foremost really. I'd also like to try my hand on the quarter mile just for fun.
Oh, and tucked away in the glovebox was an envolope that had the original dealer's name on it (Checkered Flag Toyota in Va Beach). Well, I kept saying I'd look in it but never got around to it, I finally did today only to find the original window sticker, complete with even more documentation on the car. It just gets better every day
Speaking of this car's history, here's a few videos of my exact car back in the day when the previous owner (Gus) purchased it, he had barely modded it at MIR. Lots of missed gears according to him, but the second link shows him chasing down a BMW :twisted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzCxrll9SBo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmk3fGy3q34
- .RJ - 09-26-2007
Koni > Tokico.
Looks good
- Jeff - 09-27-2007
Looks like a good way to loose your legs there junior.
- ScottyB - 09-27-2007
TurboOmni08 Wrote:Looks like a good way to loose your legs there junior.
ha sorry i was gonna say the same thing....get some jack stands under there, you're making me nervous! not that i didn't do similar stuff in college.....but that's neither here nor there :lol:
edit: running mid 14's (hypothetically, in case Travis is reading this)? not bad at all.
- Mike - 09-27-2007
you'll also quickly learn that car work in khaki anything = no no.