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New Game: Buying a 996 is a bad idea because... - Printable Version

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- .RJ - 07-17-2007

Wait until february and then your S4's warranty runs out - harder sell private party that way.

- John - 07-17-2007

Plus AWD cars are a sellers markets in the winter and RWD is a buyers market... Smile

- Evan - 07-17-2007

Apoc Wrote:I need Evan in here to tell me how much of a stupid pansy-boy eurowhore I am.
you're forgetting that I came THIS ..||... close to buying one a few years ago from a dumb rich arlington girl for silly cheap. I love the car.

the #1 through #10 reasons I didnt buy one was chronic rear main seal failures. Really really bad failures, not overhyped internet rumors. In fact the car I was going to buy only had 20k miles on it and was already on its second engine.

I will own a 996 someday, but it will be a Carrera S or GT3.

- Andy - 07-17-2007

Not in the same vein, but if it had to be a porsche:

[Image: Porsche_356_02_1024.jpg]

My argument against a Porsche is that you're not going to track it so why live with all the BS of a rear engined, money vacuum. If it's going to spend your money, at least look cool in one.

- .RJ - 07-17-2007

Andy Wrote:My argument against a Porsche is that you're not going to track it so why live with all the BS of a rear engined, money vacuum

A 40 year old car isnt a money vacuum? :lol:

- .RJ - 07-17-2007

Evan Wrote:the #1 through #10 reasons I didnt buy one was chronic rear main seal failures

Hasnt porsche finally fixed this by now?

- Andy - 07-17-2007

.RJ Wrote:
Andy Wrote:My argument against a Porsche is that you're not going to track it so why live with all the BS of a rear engined, money vacuum

A 40 year old car isnt a money vacuum? :lol:

andy Wrote:If it's going to spend your money, at least look cool in one.

No one looks cool in a modern Porsche.

- Evan - 07-17-2007

.RJ Wrote:
Evan Wrote:the #1 through #10 reasons I didnt buy one was chronic rear main seal failures

Hasnt porsche finally fixed this by now?
when I looked into in 2004, it had not been recognized by porsche. cars in warranty just kept getting remanned engines with the same problem, and at least 1 guy had a brand new 2004 911 with 1k miles on the clock and a puddle of oil on his garage floor.
I have no idea about developments since then.

The internets have a knack of blowing things out of proportion, but my research led me to believe that the risk was not worth it on such an expensive (to fix) car

- .RJ - 07-17-2007

Andy Wrote:No one looks cool in a modern Porsche.

Even chris would look cool in this -

[Image: PorBlkGT3RSA.jpg]

Evan Wrote:The internets have a knack of blowing things out of proportion, but my research led me to believe that the risk was not worth it on such an expensive (to fix) car

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Maybe porsche finally came up with a part that doesnt leak anymore?

- Mike - 07-17-2007

.RJ Wrote:
Andy Wrote:No one looks cool in a modern Porsche.

Even chris would look cool in this

no, he definitely would not.

- Apoc - 07-17-2007

Evan Wrote:
.RJ Wrote:
Evan Wrote:the #1 through #10 reasons I didnt buy one was chronic rear main seal failures

Hasnt porsche finally fixed this by now?
when I looked into in 2004, it had not been recognized by porsche. cars in warranty just kept getting remanned engines with the same problem, and at least 1 guy had a brand new 2004 911 with 1k miles on the clock and a puddle of oil on his garage floor.
I have no idea about developments since then.

The internets have a knack of blowing things out of proportion, but my research led me to believe that the risk was not worth it on such an expensive (to fix) car

I have read that you can update the RMS to the latest version, which supposedly fixes the problem. Now, who knows if it actually does and everyone knows I'm uberskurred of major problems on a car so the issue is certainly a concern of mine.

- ScottyB - 07-17-2007

OK, i'm going to pretend i don't think you should get the car, here's why:

- water cooled 911s are for gold digging housewives
- you won't drive it in the winter, why bother with AWD. it's not like you'll be launching the car at every light anyway.
- have fun with the service costs since you don't touch wrenches


sorry. that's all i got, and it's pretty weak. what's stopping you? they are the german NSX, except with character. 4 doors are over rated, too.

- ScottyB - 07-17-2007

Apoc Wrote:I have read that you can update the RMS to the latest version, which supposedly fixes the problem. Now, who knows if it actually does and everyone knows I'm uberskurred of major problems on a car so the issue is certainly a concern of mine.

i was always under the impression that 911's leaked oil all the time, from any/all orifices. maybe not alot, but it's just something they do. just pretend it's sweat from all the horsepower.

- BLINGMW - 07-18-2007

ScottyB Wrote:- water cooled 911s are for gold digging housewives
- you won't drive it in the winter, why bother with AWD. it's not like you'll be launching the car at every light anyway.
- have fun with the service costs since you don't touch wrenches

Agreed! And:
- Engine on wrong end
- Too expensive to track, too expensive to just tool around in
- Then you'll have to have conversations with other Porsche owners about their precious babies and all the little nit-picky differences and little tiny upgrades they've paid someone else to do for 10x what they should cost and why the 993 is slightly better than the 997 1/3 or the XXX super tool edition or why theirs is better than the BLAH BLAH BLAH SHUT THE HELL UP. I've overheard and even been stuck listening to these "enthusiasts" and it is PAINFUL. Either you'll become one of them (a dick), or have to avoid them.

I liked the idea of an older Porsche, at least it'd have some style. Or what about a Boxster? Those at least seem like a better value, they look better (IMHO), are said by many to be a perfect sports car, and at least the engine is in the right place! Big Grin And most Porsche owners are so conceited and blind that they don't even consider it good enough (expensive enough) to be a real Porsche, so then you don't have to be sucked into their sad little club.

- Ryan T - 07-18-2007

BLINGMW Wrote:I liked the idea of an older Porsche, at least it'd have some style. Or what about a Boxster? Those at least seem like a better value, they look better (IMHO), are said by many to be a perfect sports car, and at least the engine is in the right place! Big Grin And most Porsche owners are so conceited and blind that they don't even consider it good enough (expensive enough) to be a real Porsche, so then you don't have to be sucked into their sad little club.

Boxster engine is in the back too Wink

- Jeff - 07-18-2007

Mike Wrote:
.RJ Wrote:
Andy Wrote:No one looks cool in a modern Porsche.

Even chris would look cool in this

no, he definitely would not.

Would I?

- Scott - 07-18-2007

Apoc Wrote:Wrenches are like chicks were in the 4th grade.
I liked to look but was afraid they had cooties.

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Stay away from that one, what the hell is a Carrera R?

- Andy - 07-18-2007

Ryan T Wrote:
BLINGMW Wrote:I liked the idea of an older Porsche, at least it'd have some style. Or what about a Boxster? Those at least seem like a better value, they look better (IMHO), are said by many to be a perfect sports car, and at least the engine is in the right place! Big Grin And most Porsche owners are so conceited and blind that they don't even consider it good enough (expensive enough) to be a real Porsche, so then you don't have to be sucked into their sad little club.

Boxster engine is in the back too Wink

Boxsters are mid-engined, the way god intended. 911's are rear engined, the way the Nazis intended.

- Ginger - 07-18-2007

Yeah, Chris could look cool ON a 996

[Image: 4174_0_1_2_996_Image%20by%20Ducati.%20Pu...ssion..jpg]

But no really. I think you should go for it, Chris. It would be especially lame to get one in 20 years, too, when you'd be just like every other grey haired Novite.

- BLINGMW - 07-18-2007

Andy Wrote:Boxsters are mid-engined, the way god intended. 911's are rear engined, the way the Nazis intended.

:lol: