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- Apoc - 05-02-2008
So assuming you have a full cage, what's worse? Rolling over after scrubbing some speed or going what would likely be almost full tilt into the tire wall? I've seen a lot of cars go straight into the gravel traps and not slow down. I've also never known someone to get seriously injured in a rollover whereas most injuries are from spearing something hard.
- Mike - 05-02-2008
i'd prefer a rollover... lot longer for the energy to dissipate.
- Andy - 05-02-2008
Mike Wrote:i'd prefer a rollover... lot longer for the energy to dissipate.
Don't forget teh sweet story you'd have.
- Mike - 05-02-2008
Andy Wrote:Mike Wrote:i'd prefer a rollover... lot longer for the energy to dissipate.
Don't forget teh sweet story you'd have.
is that why you keep running in to things?
exiting turn 10 at summit... andy thinks to himself "man, this is a fucking boring straight... but look at that concrete wall! fucking sweet story!" BLAM!
- Andy - 05-02-2008
Mike Wrote:Andy Wrote:Mike Wrote:i'd prefer a rollover... lot longer for the energy to dissipate.
Don't forget teh sweet story you'd have.
is that why you keep running in to things?
exiting turn 10 at summit... andy thinks to himself "man, this is a fucking boring straight... but look at that concrete wall! fucking sweet story!" BLAM!
Assuming you don't die, why not?
We all don't have the ability to not come to the track, Mike. If I went as often as you did, I would never have any problems and be able to judge.
- Evan - 05-02-2008
no fuckin way id rather roll the car.
cars have crush zones designed to dissipate energy. ill take that over risking my vertabrae any day
- Mike - 05-03-2008
Evan Wrote:no fuckin way id rather roll the car.
cars have crush zones designed to dissipate energy.
designed for 120 in to an immovable object?
- Apoc - 05-03-2008
Especially in such a small car like a Miata. If you don't wear a Hans-like device, I'd think you're in greater danger by a head-on impact.
- Evan - 05-03-2008
so the rollover is lowspeed but the impact is not.... good comparison. :roll:
but considering my car doesnt hit 120 to begin with, even with total brake failure im not going to be anywhere near 120 when I hit the tire padded wall. downshifting + runoff area and ill be going around 60 max. less if the gravel/sand catches me. (and probably not hit it at all then)
put it this way. id rather loose my brakes and go straight off into the wall in T1 at summit than roll it coming out of t10.
- Ginger - 05-03-2008
Considering you don't really get a choice, you should all zip back up and stop crossing streams.
- Apoc - 05-03-2008
Evan Wrote:so the rollover is lowspeed but the impact is not.... good comparison. :roll:No one said the rollover was at low speed... just that the act of turning the wheels would scrub speed before it would actually roll over.
asteele2 Wrote:Considering you don't really get a choice, you should all zip back up and stop crossing streams.
Sorry... I didn't realize we're only supposed to talk real-world scenarios here and not debate hypotheticals.