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- G.Irish - 11-16-2006
stevegula Wrote:G.Irish Wrote:At the end of the day the big 4's 1000's and 600's are so close to each other in performance that it's really a wash until you get into pro racing.
4rlz? that would be why my statement said "I don't think they make great 600cc or 1000cc I4s". Think, as in opinion. My experience with the Honders work wise and riding wise always makes me appreciate my GSX-R more.
And I asked upon what do you base your opinion. If it's because of some things like a stock steering damper and ease of conversion to GP shift I'd have to say that's kind of a thin argument. If it's race results you'd have a decent case for the GSX-R1000 but a very poor one for the 600. Even then the 1000RR has won more worldwide than either of the other 1000's.
Saying you have a preference for any bike doesn't require any explanation. If you are going to say someone's bikes are not good then naturally most people are going to be curious as to why.
- stevegula - 11-16-2006
G.Irish Wrote:If it's because of some things like a stock steering damper [...] I'd have to say that's kind of a thin argument.
Yea, I seem to consider that a bigger point than most people. To me, not going into a tank slapper is kind of important.
- .RJ - 11-16-2006
stevegula Wrote:To me, not going into a tank slapper is kind of important.
Depends on your preference I guess. My RC could use one... but its not absolutely necessary and I'm not going to crash because its not there.
- G.Irish - 11-16-2006
stevegula Wrote:It's certainly a useful piece of equipment but if that's the sole reason that the 600RR is not 'great' I'd have to say that's much of an argument.G.Irish Wrote:If it's because of some things like a stock steering damper [...] I'd have to say that's kind of a thin argument.
Yea, I seem to consider that a bigger point than most people. To me, not going into a tank slapper is kind of important.
- Evan - 11-16-2006
o┬Àpin┬Àion (ə-pĭn'yən)
n.
A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof
im not sure why you guys are arguing just because someone doenst jizz their shorts over hondas
- G.Irish - 11-16-2006
Evan Wrote:o┬Àpin┬Àion (ə-pĭn'yən)Who's arguing? I just wonder what he was using to form his opinion. Especially since he cheapshots Hondas from time to time.
n.
A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof
im not sure why you guys are arguing just because someone doenst jizz their shorts over hondas
Besides you're the first one to question someone if they say Miatas aren't good cars or the Evo is better than the STi.
- Evan - 11-16-2006
he gave his reasons and you didnt accept them.
there is a big difference between sharing your own feelings and flat out saying someone is wrong.
- stevegula - 11-16-2006
.RJ Wrote:stevegula Wrote:To me, not going into a tank slapper is kind of important.
Depends on your preference I guess. My RC could use one... but its not absolutely necessary and I'm not going to crash because its not there.
You may at the track when you come tearing out of a turn or when you're goofing off on the street and you don't put your wheelie down properly.
- .RJ - 11-16-2006
Evan Wrote:he gave his reasons and you didnt accept them
Isnt that the same as having an opinion?
No one ever said anything about being 'wrong', although it was worth clarifying about the recent AMA/WSBK results.
- G.Irish - 11-16-2006
Do I have to accept someone else's reasoning if I don't agree?
- Maengelito - 11-16-2006
ladies, please.
- stevegula - 11-16-2006
.RJ Wrote:No one ever said anything about being 'wrong', although it was worth clarifying about the recent AMA/WSBK results.
AMA SBK - 1 Honda win, rest by Suzuki, I believe.
WSBK - 24 races, 4 Honda wins (12 by Ducati, 5 by Suzuki, 2 by Yamaha, 1 by Kawi)
So as I said, Honda didn't exactly set AMA SBK or WSBK world on fire.
- .RJ - 11-16-2006
stevegula Wrote:So as I said, Honda didn't exactly set AMA SBK or WSBK world on fire.
In 2006, yes..... but you're using a very narrow scope only to better support your opnion.
- G.Irish - 11-16-2006
Well if you want to use Superbike racing they've done well, winning JSB and BSB, and finishing 2nd in WSBK. I wanna say a Suzuki team won World Endurance this year though. However, as it stands Honda has actually done better overall than anyone in major superbike racing worldwide.
- stevegula - 11-16-2006
.RJ Wrote:stevegula Wrote:So as I said, Honda didn't exactly set AMA SBK or WSBK world on fire.
In 2006, yes..... but you're using a very narrow scope only to better support your opnion.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this year in BSBK the only series the CBR1000RR has ever won?
- G.Irish - 11-16-2006
The 1000RR won all three years of JSB it's contested.
- stevegula - 11-16-2006
anyone ever seen a site that a great comparison of how the rules differ between the different race leagues for the same categories? (like SBK, SSp, SSt)
- G.Irish - 11-16-2006
Nope, that might be something worth doing though.
- Evan - 11-16-2006
G.Irish Wrote:Do I have to accept someone else's reasoning if I don't agree?Of course not, but its hypocritical to demand "evidence" for someone elses opinion but not provide any for your own. anyway, it matters not, but the tone of the high and mighty untouchable honda was clear.
- .RJ - 11-16-2006
Evan Wrote:anyway, it matters not, but the tone of the high and mighty untouchable honda was clear.
:roll:
You're like a seagull.