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- Maengelito - 02-26-2007

getfast Wrote:I believe it was his 996 GT3 Supercup car from '01 at Indy:

[Image: Indy003.jpg]

I started one of the Saturday afternoon HPDE4 sessions two cars back... and it blew by me on green lap #4. I was doing 2:40ish laps (in Packer's black & white S13) at the time, so 2:02's sound about right. :twisted:

Jon

thats the one. holy crap was that thing fast! every session out there, it lapped me atleast twice. so figuring that a 25 minute session with a warmup and cool down lap, you can get about 8 cleanish laps. jenn timed only two of my laps which were semi clean and i ran a 2:34 and 2:33. so i think a 2:0x lap for that car is right though

- Mike - 02-26-2007

some videos: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.iammike.org/pictures/track_events/2007_02_NASA_at_VIR-F/">http://www.iammike.org/pictures/track_e ... _at_VIR-F/</a><!-- m -->

amazing, i just looked through three days of footage and only had ONE lap without traffic of any kind. it wasn't that great of one either Sad

- Apoc - 02-26-2007

For some reason your videos have sound but no picture. Guess my codecs suck but yours are the only videos I've ever had a problem with. Must be your 1337 Anystream video editing skillz.

Here's the limited clips I have to offer.

Smoking in the Uphill Esses (4.3mb) ---> Link

Short-Cutting South Bend (3.7mb) ---> Link

Mis-Shift for 2nd (3.4mb) ---> Link

- Dave - 02-26-2007

what a weekend. The supra is a big difference from the 240, I'm thinking about taking the car back from Linds :-).
In all honesty, I didn't enjoy driving the supra much. I care too much about it to push it, and it bites faster than the 240. It wasn't until Saturday afternoon that I got remotely comfortable with it and it was really starting to pick up some speed considering that I wasn't really pushing it. Had to start all over again with it being a wet track. In terms of spinning and near spins, I tankslapped coming out of oak tree on my first lap (missed the pace lap) on Saturday and spun at turn 2 of lap 2 in that same session. In the middle of my first session on Sunday I started tankslapping coming out of South Bend and after 3 corrections, put both feet in b/c I was headed off course. I actually ended up doing two 360s and staying dead center on track. An RX-8 went to the right and put 2 wheels off and an RX-7 went to my left, but both managed to totally miss me, for which I am eternally grateful.
That was all I personally experienced, however I was in the group 2 session directly behind the M3 when it somehow just started spinning off from the long straight and crashed into a flagging station there. It was very creepy watching it happen, since it was the kind of place where no steering inputs would occur. I will say that I distinctly remember there being what seemed like a gust of wind coming across the track, and can only assume that he might have lifted, moving weight off of the rear and hit a patch of water, all three factors resulting in a high speed crash off of the straight.
That was the end of my weekend, and proceeded to get totally drenched and frozen while packing up to go. I really don't see myself driving the Supra again on track for a while and I'll be focusing all of my efforts into clearing out my list of cars and getting the Z ready. I really missed the lightness of my 240, even though it didn't have as much power. I loved the braking capacity of the supra, as well as the fantastic thrust that the engine provided at WOT; man, what a feeling.

- Maengelito - 02-26-2007

Dave Wrote:That was all I personally experienced, however I was in the group 2 session directly behind the M3 when it somehow just started spinning off from the long straight and crashed into a flagging station there. It was very creepy watching it happen, since it was the kind of place where no steering inputs would occur. I will say that I distinctly remember there being what seemed like a gust of wind coming across the track, and can only assume that he might have lifted, moving weight off of the rear and hit a patch of water, all three factors resulting in a high speed crash off of the straight.

riding with students, i could feel the car hydroplaning on the back straight. we would hit certain patches of water and you'd hear the engine pick up and settle down all of a sudden like it would be disengaged for a split second. my group 1 student told me he felt the car get a little squirrely when that happened. with the M3 i can only assume that perhaps one wheel lost traction and the other just thrust it into a spin. when i first drove by it though, i saw that dodge charger off track on drivers right and the M3 smashed up in the back on its side to drivers left. i figured the charger had somehow rearended it sending it into the tire wall. i guess that wasnt the case.

- Mike - 02-26-2007

Apoc Wrote:For some reason your videos have sound but no picture. Guess my codecs suck but yours are the only videos I've ever had a problem with. Must be your 1337 Anystream video editing skillz.

Confusedhrug: they're just MPEG2s, nothing special. use WMP.

- Apoc - 02-26-2007

Mike Wrote:
Apoc Wrote:For some reason your videos have sound but no picture. Guess my codecs suck but yours are the only videos I've ever had a problem with. Must be your 1337 Anystream video editing skillz.

Confusedhrug: they're just MPEG2s, nothing special. use WMP.

I do... and I get the same result in WinAMP as well as another generic Creative branded player. Oh well.

- Sijray21 - 02-26-2007

VIR full is an incredible track! This was my first weekend to drive on VIR and i was thankful that it was VIR Full. My previous 4 weekends were at Summit Point Main and i'm looking to expand my track experiences. My main goal for the first day was to try and pick up the line, find the braking points, and proper turn in and track out. The one thing i definitely learned about VIR is that the sections between the straights flow together as sections. If you miss one turn you tend to miss most if not all of the section, so consistency is very key.

On Sunday the threat of rain lurked and so did my nervousness as thoughts of sliding through the wet grass and into a guardrail kept going through my mind. Driving in the rain with Azenis RT-215's and not having ABS wasn't really my ideal situation, but the situation actually surprised me. The pace of the sessions were a lot slower and my years with the car helped to provide a predicable behavior in the wet. I actually like driving in the wet. The first session kinda had me on edge as someone from the previous session dropped an oil line right on the qualifying line, but adjusting to that was a good learning experience. The second session was a little different as the rain was falling a lot harder. The rain started to accumulate in puddles throughout the course and i couldn't go above 90mph on the straights without hydroplaning.

I still don't have the course down, but i have a much better feel for it. Turn 14-17 need a lot of work, but man i love the uphill S's. I think the highest speed i got up to was around 95-100mph going through the S's and man was that exciting. I really want to run this course again!

EDIT: Seeing the M3 on its side infront of station 12 was a little humbling. My guess is with Maeng with the loss of traction to one wheel causing it to spin although Dave also mentioned a big gust of wind at the time too (which i could also see causing it at 70mph). I'm glad the driver and instructor weren't too hurt. I know it was happening to me on the front straight, but since i have a FWD car i don't think that it had much of an affect for spinning the car. Great experience in the wet though.

- ViPER1313 - 02-26-2007

There is something wrong with the files - they don't work w/ WMP, Quicktime, etc. The only thing I can get to open them is VirtualDub Mod.

- Mike - 02-26-2007

Apoc Wrote:
Mike Wrote:
Apoc Wrote:For some reason your videos have sound but no picture. Guess my codecs suck but yours are the only videos I've ever had a problem with. Must be your 1337 Anystream video editing skillz.

Confusedhrug: they're just MPEG2s, nothing special. use WMP.

I do... and I get the same result in WinAMP as well as another generic Creative branded player. Oh well.

you've got something interfering with the proper playback then... i've tried 3 machines and they all work fine. i'll encode to WM and/or divx tomorrow for you sissies.

- Hunter - 02-26-2007

I can open mikes videos, but they're all scrambled. Maybe he's trying to make an artistic statement.

- ViPER1313 - 02-26-2007

Clicky POW! for tons of pictures :wink:

- Apoc - 02-26-2007

Sooo... is it time to start the March VIR thread yet?

- ScottyB - 02-26-2007

awesome stories guys, glad you're ok. i would have been crying in fear with that much rain out there!

nice videos too, Mike and Chris. i could see them all just fine. Mike...that hatchy rear end goes around kinda fast, no? i was surprised to say the least, although it was always under braking i think

- Mike - 02-27-2007

ScottyB Wrote:Mike...that hatchy rear end goes around kinda fast, no? i was surprised to say the least, although it was always under braking i think

yes it dos, and no, neither time was under braking.

- Mike - 02-27-2007

my videos are now in vc1 format. if you can't play em, blow me.

- Apoc - 02-27-2007

Downloaded a codec here at work but I can see them now. Yay!

edit: NASA's results are up.

<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://nasaracing.net/VIR_Feb_07/event_results.htm">http://nasaracing.net/VIR_Feb_07/event_results.htm</a><!-- m -->

- CaptainHenreh - 02-27-2007

Wow. Rain was definitely an "equalizer"...Cobetto's fastest lap was only a second behind that GTS5 911...that did a 2:02 on Saturday!

- Mike - 02-27-2007

I put my junk up on Google video:

Only lap without traffic: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2583002577375155779&hl=en">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 5779&hl=en</a><!-- m -->
Rain lap: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1895509298444407139&hl=en">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 7139&hl=en</a><!-- m -->
Squirrelly in the esses and other fun stuff to come up on: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7411693167720894347&hl=en">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 4347&hl=en</a><!-- m -->
Spin from rear pressures too high: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6395138378683588339&hl=en">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8339&hl=en</a><!-- m -->
Another spin, not sure why: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7323655220801191013&hl=en">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1013&hl=en</a><!-- m -->
Rolled: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6464674151532563590&hl=en">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 3590&hl=en</a><!-- m -->
Rolled: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3094836514823516896&hl=en">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 6896&hl=en</a><!-- m -->
Rolled: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3074672037391108028&hl=en">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8028&hl=en</a><!-- m -->
Rolled: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7057937461851104260&hl=en">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 4260&hl=en</a><!-- m -->
Rolled: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5048632247018315198&hl=en">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 5198&hl=en</a><!-- m -->
Rolled: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=422935673952192445&hl=en">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 2445&hl=en</a><!-- m -->

- Sijray21 - 02-27-2007

nice vids!

Mike Wrote:Another spin, not sure why: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7323655220801191013&hl=en">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1013&hl=en</a><!-- m -->

perhaps too much load on front-right tire?

i spun there as well